being on her side...doesn't matter what she did in the entire movie...i still think it's the little boys fault. lol, love davis!
I felt really bad for her. she didn't actually kill Suzy as Joey stated. it was an accident. if Joey had paid attention to her she wouldn't have fallen into the tub. what a little brat.
You can tell Nanny loves Suzy. by the way she thinks she's bathing her when she's dead. she also loves Joey. she takes the family pictures at the end of the film to take with her.
I don't buy his miraculous transformation at the end either. give me break. it rings false. typical Hollywood ending. "I can cook! I'll make you breakfast in the morning. on a tray. with a flower!" *barfs*
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What miraculous transformation? He's said from the start that he can do everything himself, and he's always known that his mother has always been taken care of by someone else.
shareI meant that he's suddenly a sweet angel after the Nanny is taken away. in the earlier flashbacks he behaves like a brat ignoring his Sister. acting like the Nanny held down Suzy and drowned her on purpose.
When he comes home he is still a brat. when he is at the facility he is a brat. (pretending to hang himself, putting a doll in the bathtub for kicks at home?) telling his parents he hates them? see where I'm going with this? I don't care if he was "acting out". he was only doing it because he was blamed for Suzy. which when you think about it was partly his fault anyway.
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As far as Joey knows, that's what Nanny did, because he wasn't there to see her fall in, just as Nanny wasn't there, which was her job, not Joey's. If she was going out, she should've had someone come and watch the children until she got back.
He explained that at the school, there was a woman there who reminded him of Nanny, which explains why he faked his hanging. It seems once Nanny was removed from the picture, he was 'normal' again, as though Nanny in the same house as them, and everybody still believing a lie, was a cancer, and Joey was the one becoming ill from it, remove the cancer, and he's fine.
Who says he's actually 'normal' at the end? Wasn't he was going on early about how he would be better off taking care of his mother than the Nanny. Plus he's probably happy that his nemesis is finally gone and in a positive frame of mind but there is nothing to say the craziness won't return.
shareExcept it wasn't a 'Hollywood' movie.
shareNo, it was a Hammer film, but what's that got to do with anything?
shareYes, it's strongly implied that Joey's pathological problems stemmed from Nanny killing his sister, to say nothing of the psychological complications of being accused of his sister's murder and being incarcerated for it.
How "nice" is Joey expected to be by the time the movie starts?
But by the time it ends, that's all been cleared up. All his scars may not be gone, but it's a start.
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And yet Nanny being driven over the brink is understandable, but not Joey's by being blamed?
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Team Nanny all the way. Joey's an undisciplined punk. If my mother were in this movie it would be a 15-minute short called "Little Sh*t Gets His A** Kicked."
shareYeah, Joey was a little spoiled punk who should have gotten his little a** whipped real good for talking back to grown folks too damn much. But the fact was, he had every right to have an attitude and be mad---he'd been accused of causing his sister's death and packed off to an another place,knowing all the while he was innocent, and having to come back and live with the very same person who had falsely accused him in the first place. Naturally, he didn't trust her--and with good reason, as the film shows. Always wanted to see this film, since it's rarely shown on TV, and thought it was well made, nice and creepy---I liked it, and yeah, it's surprisingly underrated considering that Bette Davis is in it.
shareI'm not sure what you people are talking about. I thought Bette Davis did a great job at being sympathetic in the end, but throughout the movie she was totally creepy.
Yeah I guess it wasn't completely her fault and what happened is understandable in the context of the movie. However in real life no one would take that opinion. All of you people rooting for The Nanny, how would you feel if this was your daughter who drowned in a bath tub? You'd be suing anyone you could. And more than that, what if said Nanny lied about it, tried to blame your son for it, poisoned you, tried to drown you several times, watched as your sister died of a heart attack....She tried to kill 3 people in this movie, the kid was right about her.
That Nanny was reprehensible in every possible way. Bette Davis did a good job of making it watchable.
That nanny was irresponsible in the first place for leaving the two kids alone, why didn't she take them with her or find someone else to mind for a short time? (what no neighbors?) Joey was 8 years old when his sister died, 8 year olds don't babysit children!
Despite everything, I think Bette Davis's nanny role is the most sympathetic one that I have seen her play. Far from being a monster. Even when the nanny is being crafty I am still on her side all the way.
shareFar from being a monster.
It was certainly a pitiful portrayal. You can't blame her for her madness.
It's a funny contrast because Virginia also has emotional issues, yet she's so hard to tolerate. Hysterical, depressive women who cry all the time and can't muster the energy to do anything at all, deal ineffectually with their kids, etc. are pretty common, but it's hard to empathize because she's so irritating.