Pontius Pilate


I liked the portrayal of Pontius Pilate in this. Telly Savalas was a great choice. I didn't understand why they never let you hear the conversation between him and his wife. You see him go to her in the other room, but you don't even get to hear the conversation. They also show him washing his hands, but they never tell you why or have him say that he is not responsible. The way Pontius Pilate is portrayed in this is way better and way more accurate than the way they showed him in King of Kings. In King of Kings they didn't know what they were talking about. In Cecil B. DeMille's King of Kings they actually got it right. In Passion of the Christ they also got it right.

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I thought Hurd Hatfield gave a fine performance in King of Kings. I also liked Frank Thring in Ben Hur (ironically, in King of Kings he played Herod Antipas).

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In Passion of the Christ they also got it right.

I LOVED the portrayal of Pilate in that film.

I read in another post in this forum of an upcoming film based upon Pilate. HIS story and the whole thing through his eyes. Sounds fascinating (although how "accurate" can this be?)

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You probably didn't see too much of Mrs Pilate in this film because King of Kings dwelt too long on that relationship. Too much marital exposition softened the Pilate character beyond what's desirable. Savalas shows Pilate as the hard, pitiless Roman master he and all others like him were.

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You probably didn't see too much of Mrs Pilate in this film because King of Kings dwelt too long on that relationship.
Actually, you probably didn't see too much of Mrs Pilate because the entire film was savagely cut both before the premiere and after; a lot of footage bit the dust, and that surely included some of Angela Lansbury as Mrs P. Many scenes only make sense to the degree that you know what has been left out.

Stevens' original cut was a very stately 260 minutes (4 hrs 20 mins). It premiered at 238 minutes, but was released at 197 minutes (3hrs 17 mins; excluding overture & intermission music). So it lost over an hour of footage in all.


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I agree that someone like Angela Lansbury wouldn't have been cast in such a role if it hadn't been intended to be longer since in the end we only see her in one scene from behind with just one line. I am sure they probably filmed something related to her dream, described in Matthew where she warns Pilate to "have nothing to do with that innocent man" because of the dream.

Paul Maier's novel "Pontius Pilate" would make for a wonderful big-screen story since it tries to tell the story of Pilate using all the known-historical evidence available to us and letting fictional mortar just fill in the rest. I have found that "Passion Of The Christ" gets Pilate most right in relation to what we know from the historical record whereas interpretations that show Pilate as overly bloodthirsty (as in "King of Kings") are wildly off the mark. Conversely, Rod Steiger's overly bored bureaucrat in "Jesus Of Nazareth" goes too far in the other direction.

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"Passion Of The Christ" gets Pilate most right in relation to what we know from the historical record whereas interpretations that show Pilate as overly bloodthirsty (as in "King of Kings") are wildly off the mark.

History and the NT say exactly the opposite, as when Jesus mentions the time that Pilate "mixed the blood of" Jews with their sacrifices; the several Jewish protestations to Rome about Pilate; the different ways in which Pilate deliberately provoked the Jews, trying to incite them to rioting which Pilate could then violently put down, etc.

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There were indeed Jewish protests about Pilate's conduct to Rome, in relation to both of the golden shields incidents (where Pilate used force once) and also Pilate's use of temple money to build an aqueduct in Jerusalem. Whether the protests were wholly legitimate in the case of the non-violent shields incident or the aqueduct building incident, is itself a matter that as Maier notes, could be argued either way. Still, the bloodthirsty depiction of Pilate would not square with the Gospel account of a man who seems to be looking for reasons *not* to crucify Jesus (one could certainly not find any trace of the Hurd Hatfield interpretation anywhere in the Gospels).

In the end, the tipping point was the "if you free this man you are no friend of Caesar!" threat, which in the context of previous letters of protest to Rome would have made Pilate very uneasy *especially* if as Maier argues, the timing of the Crucifixion took place after the fall from grace of Tiberius's former right hand Lucius Aelius Sejanus (who'd been exposed and put to death for conspiracy with Tiberius's daughter-in-law in the murder of Tiberius's only son). Sejanus had in effect been running administrative affairs in Rome while Tiberius had retreated to Capri, and was also notoriously anti-Jewish. During the days when Sejanus had the upper hand, Pilate would have hewed to a tougher policy against the Jews more out of good politics from his standpoint. But after the fall of Sejanus, Tiberius from Capri began to reverse many of Sejanus's positions, which meant showing more deference to the Jews. In *that* context, a protest letter to Caesar over the release of Jesus would have potentially made an impact on Tiberius not because of the merits of the case, but because it would have suggested to Tiberius that perhaps Pilate was still pursuing the Sejanus line. That ultimately was the thing Pilate had to be most afraid about. By that point in time, acting with bloodthirsty provocation against the Jews was the *last* thing he wanted to do because it would have run counter to general Roman policy at that point in time. (Admittedly this theory hinges on the matter of whether Sejanus's downfall took place before the Crucifixion. If evidence were to ever conclusively prove Sejanus fell from power after the Crucifixion, then this entire theory about Pilate goes out the window).

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