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Federico Fellini claimed he took LSD in preparation for making this film


You just have to laugh at something like that.

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Where did you find this information? It's true that he once took LSD, but it was an experiment in no direct connection to any film - afaik. So I'd be interested to learn who made this conclusion or where you read that Fellini said so himself ?

Regards, Rosabel

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Director Federico Fellini claimed he took LSD in preparation for making this film.

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Ah, thanks for the info. That's not a very reliable source, I'd say - I never found Fellini saying anything about his LSD experiment in the context of this film, on the contrary some people found it noteworthy that he never liked to talk about his LSD trip and wondered why this was that they couldn't get anything out of him.

Btw, why did it make you laugh?

Regards, Rosabel

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I'm not a fan of Fellini's films, and the fact that he took drugs to prepare for a film makes me dislike his movies even more.

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Well, he didn't take drugs to prepare for a film, that's absolute and plain nonsense. He never took drugs, except for this one LSD experiment - actually he was afraid of drugs, that's why at this exceptional occasion he had a doctor and friends present; the experience was enough for him to never repeat it.

What he did use for his films were dreams. They were as important to him as experiences in wakefulness, that's why for many years he kept a dream-diary with his dream accounts which he often illustrated as well. The background of this was psychoanalytical, of Jungian orientation, to be exact, and the idea that dreams are a way to understand subconscious processes of the human mind, an idea he shared with many artists.

So all I can say is: beware of those overly simplistic imdb trivia!

Regards, Rosabel

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It may (or may may not) be true that he didn't take LSD as a planned preparation for this film, but Juliet certainly wouldn't have been what it became without his LSD experiment.

This is what Fellini had to say about his LSD experience:

objects and their functions no longer had any significance. All I perceived was perception itself, the hell of forms and figures devoid of human emotion and detached from the reality of my unreal environment. I was an instrument in a virtual world that constantly renewed its own meaningless image in a living world that was itself perceived outside of nature. And since the appearance of things was no longer definitive but limitless, this paradisiacal awareness freed me from the reality external to my self. The fire and the rose, as it were, became one.


The dialog during the scene on the beach (at 15 mins into the film) neatly describes the first two stages of the "Three Stages of Trance" model developed by Lewis-Williams and Dowson in 1988 to classify general patterns of perception during hallucinogenic (and similar) states. http://www.wynja.com/arch/entoptic.html

1st stage: entoptic images of a geometric nature ("beautifully coloured balls")
2nd stage: iconic forms, informed by cultural expectations as well as individual dispositions ("castles... wild forests... and little faces looking at me with twinkling little eyes")

The 3rd stage of this model (intensification and interaction, the experience moves beyond that of simile to a perception of the experience itself as being real) would be the events that unfold to Giuletta during the rest of the film.


I was wondering whether his LSD experiment had anything to do with Fellini's next film being his first colour feature, but I guess the popularity of LSD and the final breakthrough of films in colour was just one of those coincidences of the mid sixties.

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>I'm not a fan of Fellini's films

Why are you on this board? Bizarre imdb phenomenon I will never understand.

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well Jodorowsky once claimed that he and WHOLE the cast and crew where "stoned immaculate" when shooting "The Holy Mountain". I don't believe that, at least some people HAD to be sober in order to deal with the production of the movie.

Anyway don't forget that this movie was shot in the mid 60's where drugs like LSD weren't "taboo" like nowadays. In fact I bet lots of directors and actors used drugs in order to "understand" better their roles or to enhance their vision of the movie. Just that only few of them publicly accepted it like "el loco" Jodoman, or in this case Fellini, even if he only did it for this film.

BTW do you really think that currently nobody uses drugs anymore? Of course, to accept it today would put an end to ur career OR will launch a non-existent career (Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc. anyone?)

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You beat me to it!! I was about to mention the Jodorowsky/Holy Mountain/LSD connection.

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Anyway don't forget that this movie was shot in the mid 60's where drugs like LSD weren't "taboo" like nowadays. In fact I bet lots of directors and actors used drugs in order to "understand" better their roles or to enhance their vision of the movie.


It was the thing to do in late fifties to mid sixties Hollywood circles. Republican Cary Grant took LSD more than sixty times, though not in preparation of specific roles, but to get rid of general fears and hang ups that negatively influenced his acting in general.

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It is true that in 1964 Fellini experimented with LSD. He wanted to lose himself in the Oneness of everything as 'Tchoutoye' has pointed out with that Fellini quote. Fellini didn't reveal this to the public until 1992. Anyhow, on that fateful day in 1964 under the supervision of a psychoanalyst, Fellini did liberate himself from the spirirts of the material world according to his very own words. Fellini's biggest preperation for both this experience and this film however, was the pioneering work of the brilliant Carl Gustav Jung. Fellini became engrossed in the work of Jungian depth psychology and also read the ancient Chinese text, the 'I Ching' or, 'The Book Of Changes'.

My body's a cage, it's been used and abused...and I...LIKE IT!!

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that pretty much explains it then






so many movies, so little time

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