Prurient question


...but also an interesting point of socio-sexual history: was this the first British film to depict cunnilingus?

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How dare you sir....

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Not very helpful asgardsreil but thanks anyway...perhaps if I'd titled this 'muff-diving' I'd have generated greater interest for what, I increasingly believe, is a matter of great historical and socio-sexual import and not really prurient at all. Oh well...

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Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, was coarse about the original post? Was it "Prurient question," "socio-sexual history," or "depict cunnilingus"? Coarse would be "****" or "****."

I haven't seen the movie, so I can't answer the question one way or the other, but I honestly don't find anything "coarse" about it.

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It's been awhile now but I'm referring to the scene where Laurence Harvey's head descends out of frame and we cut to a shot of Christie wriggling in pleasure. I may just have a dirty mind but the clear implication is that he's performing an act of oral pleasure rather than just, I dunno, tickling her feet.

Not so very risque these days of course but quite saucy for 1965 and, possibly, predating any mainstream (implied) scene of fellatio? You go girl!

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I don't have a specific recollection of the scene from when I saw it the year it was released.
Here's the only reference I could find relating to your question -
(scroll way down until you see '1959 Les Amants')
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2006/nov/26/features.review






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Actually, she is grimacing during this scene; she finds sex unpleasant. Diana is a very shallow person, after all. She admits later in the film that she "doesn't like [sex] much".

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Shallow and sexless, one of the few females in film I can relate to.

I remember the scene because I thought it had a twisted humour to it. The way they prepared them selves for the act, everything done so tidily, how they took their time preparing the bed, put the clothes on hangers. It's the weirdest foreplay scene I've ever seen.





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How does being shallow correlate to find sex unpleasant? One would think if you are shallow and selfish, receiving oral sex is perfect because it's pleasurable and you're not doing anything for the other. Sounds like something this character would like. Nothing about what you said made sense.

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See, that's the trouble with sex scenes. You can't tell whether someone's grimacing in pain or clenching their face in pleasure. I can easily believe that Diana doesn't much like sex, but taking that specific scene alone, we cannot know unless Julie Christie tells us.


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I am currently watching the film, and I also got the implication of oral sex...or at the very least, headed in that direction. From the camera angles, he is obviously not homing in for a kiss on the face.

This film is full of all sorts of interesting things from a sociology standpoint. Gays, Abortion, Oral sex, etc... So far I like the film quite a bit.

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The first instance of cunnlingus in a British movie was between Margaret Ruthgerford and Dame May Whitty in the suppressed Miss Marple thriller, THE MYSTERY OF SAPPHO.

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/ctually, she is grimacing during this scene; she finds sex unpleasant. Diana is a very shallow person, after all. She admits later in the film that she "doesn't like [sex] much"./

I agree.


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There's also an interesting double entendre in a line spoken by Robert Gold, after Diana returns to London following her Paris trip with Miles. Ostensibly, Diana's trip was to explore possible work in French cinema, so Robert wants to know how she was received, and says, "Did you go down well?" I thought that was a sly rebuke against Diana. Diana's reply? "Like a dozen oysters."

Yeah, I thought so, too. :)

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I just watched the film last night, and so the scene you reference is very clear in my mind. The implication is clearly that Miles (Lawrence Harvey) is performing oral sex on Diana (Julie Christie). I don't even know what other interpretation is possible, really, given the nature of the scene and the characters. And it it the first time in any film I've seen where this act is so clearly presented.

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even back in 1965, the europeans were way ahead of us puritanical yanks, when it came to racy movies. needless to say, this movie was not shown here in 1965 america, in its uncut state.

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Well, theoretically, Miles could have been using his fingers (and his head descends to get a better view), but that's unlikely, and I assume he's rug-munching, just like the rest of you interprets it.

As to Diana's "pleasure or discomfort?", that's ambiguous, just like the filmmakers (probably) wanted it.

I wonder if there isn't a scene in Lolita (between James Mason & Sue Lyon or between Peter Sellers & Sue Lyon) suggesting the same intimate act.

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I think the scene where Sue Lyons "drops the other shoe" is as close as they got in Lolita.

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