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Ali La Pointe rockz (avoid if you dislike political comnts)


I guess every man ,woman ,child who has walked on the soil of Iraq, Palestine and Afghanistan (and many other places)must raise the Ali La Pointe that is sleeping within him or her.

What France did in Algeria is nothing compared to what is being done by the self supposed Big boss of all nations.. I am not anti-US but yeh i am anti-the man and the policies that is running USA and ruining the World.

The French may think Ali La Pointe was a terrorist, you all may think Bin Laden is a monster, but then go spend some time in those terrified homes of kabul, baghdad .... you will realise what these people r going through..

Saw this film for the first time on dvd.. I salute the Algerian struggle for independence..
4th of July may be damn damn special to those living under the red n white stripes, but I m waiting for the day which I will call special..the day when the last US flag will be burnt in Baghdad.And the settlers will be pushed away from Israel..

(These are my opinion and if any of you find anythignw rong with my views,well ignore this )

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If the essence of your post was that American military intervention (and that of other belligerent nations across the breadth of the globe) in the rest of the world should cease, then we are in agreement. When a state commits resources to destructive ends, such as the military campaign in Iraq, the net effect of this noble undertaking is the tragic loss of human life, the deprivation of private capital, the destruction of vital municipal services, and the ruthless imposition of foreign values espoused by the conqueror, all of which are utterly gratuitous and anti-social acts.

What I find personally worrying, however, is your conscious decision to ignore the endeavours of violent thugs (Al Qaeda, Hamas) -- who you seem to conveniently separate from the rest of humanity, or the western world -- who seek to wield power over sovereign individuals through some form of governance. The kind of belligerence illustrated by the American state apparatus heretofore isn't exclusive to the American state, or indeed the wider western hemisphere in general, but is a universal facet of the statist paradigm -- it applies to all controlling governments, or would-be governments.

I assume when you speak of the day when "the settlers will be pushed away from Israel" you are referring to Israeli Jews who you believe have no claim to the land they presently inhabit. So in lieu of peaceful reconciliation (which you appear to support with regards to American interventionism) you're now advocating the armed expulsion of Israeli citizens as a means to settle property disputes that began over half a century ago. Wow, aren't you the freedom fighter!

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I support what the Iranian president the great Ahmadinejad said.. That the Israeli settlers should all be taken to Alaska n they should peacefully settle there..

Why take the land of poor Palestinians?? Just cuz they didnt have the backing of the Big Daddy, some jews snatched their land..Trust me, orgz like taliban,qaeda,hamas ,etc have to exist so that they can tell the self supposed Big Daddy and its associates that we may lose these small battles but not the determination.. getting me??

I am not anti US.. I love Jlo and i love the MLB ,but what I feel abt the US policies..?? well, cant type them here cuz I respect the rules of IMDB..

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That the Israeli settlers should all be taken to Alaska n they should peacefully settle there..

Armed expulsion implies peaceful resettlement as much as slavery implies contractual employment; you cannot dictate peace through force, it simply doesn't work. Other than engendering resentment and division between the Isrealis and Palestinians what has the concrete wall erected by the Israeli government achieved, for example?

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Did you hear what Israel PM Olmert said infront of the US congress?
If you did,then I m sure you will agree that Olmert is in no mood for any sort of peace.. he wont recognize Hamas , a party chosen by the palestinians to lead them? he will spread the israeli border deeper into the Palestinian territory just cuz a small bunch of jews r living in that region..He wont let the muslims enter into Jerusalem... come on , its a sacred place for muslims...

I think the late Yaseer Arafat did nothing constructive for the people of Palestine.. Hamas will God willing take the people of Palestine in the right direction n hopefully Israel will change its location..Alaska or somewhere in the pacific..they can choose..amen

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Hey man, Alaska's my home state. I don't want 5 million zionists moving here any more than the Palestinians do.

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Whilst I opposed the US invasion of Iraq and think the creation of Israel was a colossal mistake, I also think that Bin Laden is a dangerous psychotic pushing a bloodthirsty creed.

Im interested to hear apologists for his campaign of murder say that its all about Palestine or Iraq. No it isnt. Read what he himself has written. He also claims to be fighting to regain swathes of mainland Spain lost to Catholics as long ago as 1492. So, even if the US left Iraq tomorrow and every Jew in Israel packed their bags, this cave bound lunatic would still be slaughtering people.

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I guess what he means by settlers are the hundreds of thousands of people living in the West bank, in armed camps in the middle of Palestinian towns and farm fields, shooting Palestinian women and children (and men) for sport.

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I agree with what you're trying to say, Ali La Pointe being the central character is one of the more crucial choices that Pontecorvo made with the film, it had to have some kind of anchor or at least some kind of core within such a big story, and he puts forth a character who isn't exactly 'likeable', but isn't totally unsympathetic either, he just is.....um, not sure why you had your post as rockz, heh




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Long live Iraq!
Long live the Resistance!
Long live Saddam Hussein!

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israel seems immune to un legislations because of the anti semite clause

if u say ANYTHING about israel u are labelled an anti semite, even though the arab people there are classed as semites too

the zionists who gained other peoples land and the ones who continue to abuse it today deserve death. theyve been bombing lebanon for decades and trying to expand

no doubt the elite zionists have some sort of hold over america be it rhough corporations and business and banking so they are an allie

its gonna hot up soon with iran, as russia is allied to them, they will probably get involved and it could re open a cold war situation again

i dont see why iran cant go nuclear as well, israel can but not iran? iran need to be able to counteract the bullying

anyway, this movie is like the palestine situation in the early staged but not now since israel its self is a luxurious holiday resort for hasidic jews while palestines tiny mass and strips are war torn, poor and ravaged

if u want a REAL jewis view, check www.jewsagainstzionism.com for a detailed view on israel from orthadox jews

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I think Ali represents sort of an uncomfortable reality, especially to Americans, that his goals - a self-ruled Algeria - are valid, but his methods are unsound. At first I thought about comparing him to bin Laden, but I don't think that comparison is valid. I think a more apt comparison would be Hamas or Hezbollah, though I can't say I agree with the "destruction" of Israel. To me that implies genocide. That may not be their aim, but it seems that way to a neutral observer.

A little history lesson: Israel was created not under sanction by the UK, which had jurisdiction over the area after WWII, but behind their backs. The UK turned a blind eye to it, though, thinking Jews who were displaced after the war deserved something, since in many cases they had no homes to return to, especially in Easter Europe. I think the problem was in creating a state that was solely Jewish. A better move would have been to create a state (or just leave it like it was) where all religions would be free to worship as they pleased, and all the holy sites would be respected and preserved. Kind of like another nation I can think of...

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Your point of View is clearly from what the US media would like you to think.

If you have made the above comment without watching the film, then you are a fool, but if you have seen the film then you will understand that the East and West have completely different Cultures. The people that you call Terrorists in the West are in actual fact Liberators to people in the East.

The differences in Cultures make it impossible to compare the Cultures, like comparing Apples and Oranges. Hopefully the film made you see the point I am trying to make.

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i really dont understand why people call us "algerians" terroists
the frenchs came to our country and wanted to expand their borders to the oder side of the mediteranian sea and besides we helped them in the ww2 too cuz they promise to give us liberty but they didnt kept their promise and they commit a genocid instead by killing many thousand of people who claim their independence so we fought to get our independance thats logic.



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This isn't an East vs. West issue - it's an issue of having foreign troops in your country. Americans fought against the British when they put troops in the U.S. during the War of 1812. We would have been very humiliated if we hadn't.

Unfortunately, it seems that many people don't understand why people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, or Algeria during the period shown in this film, revolt against foreign troops in their homeland.

The Americans who fought against the British (in either our war for independence or the War of 1812) are called patriots and rightly so. We condemn people of other nations acting like our patriots.

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I thought his acting was really bad...compare the first scene (card game) with the way its done in Lock Stock...Ali is just going thru the lines without emotion, or maybe without fully understanding that he's supposed to be portraying a character who's hustling people.

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