Partial Rip-off


Anybody else notice how this takes its idea of the future from Brave New World? No love, no freedom to express oneself artistically, an outsider introduced to the futuristic world is perplexed by its way of life? I say a posthumous story credit should be given to Aldous Huxley! Screw the comparisons to 1984!

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Alphaville is a dystopia. The lack of love, expression etc. is a common theme for these stories. There are many more books/films/… with similar themes.

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Alphaville is a ripp-off if you want to call it in that way, but at the same time is unique and quite original.

But not only is based on "A Brave New World" but also in George Orwell's novels (in partciular "1984"), and similar works that talks on dystopian worlds located in a certain future.

Alphaville it's also based on pulp fiction stories, comic books, super-spies flicks, sci-fi movies, film noir films, etc.

But the combination of a little bit of this and a little bit of that, mixed with very original ideas from the genious of Godard himself made "Alphaville" one of its kind.

I've seen movies with similar themes to some extent (mainly done AFTER "Alphaville" was released) But I haven't seen any movie as original, brave and icnoclastic as "Alphaville".

No, it's not a rip-off is Godard's own creature, weird, bizarre, but also poetical, romantic, anti-totalitarian and free!

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To be honest:

It sounds to me you have not read many books nor seen many films to make such a claim.

Besides: Where exactly do you find Lemmy Caution perplexed in this film...?

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I thought it was nothing like A Brave New World. Not one person is an Indian. Besides, Colin Ferrel and Christian Bale aren't in it. Nobody ate the leather from their belts. The movie wasn't done is mostly whispers.

Really, I don't see how you can even draw that comparison. Not to mention that the Brave New World was made in 2005 by Terrence Malik.

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However, it was certainly more like Brave New World than it was 1984.

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''However, it was certainly more like Brave New World than it was 1984.''

Agreed. '1984' is far too cheesy (especially with the characters who know they are villains and are just doing things for the ''evulz''), unlike this film. Actually I am not even sure if Godard would have cared for '1984' as he was probably a Marxist-Leninist (Maoist, particularly) by the time he made 'Alphaville' even if it was not as noticeable at this point. George Orwell's novel was, of course, a very non-nuanced and misinformed critique of Marxism-Leninism, which pretty much just conflated them with Nazis, which is very absurd and ridiculous. Whatever one things of Marxism-Leninism it has qualitative differences from Nazism, which is an ideology of the right of the political spectrum. They are authoritarian (so is Trotskyism, which Orwell loved, supposedly) and that is about it as far as similarities go.

''What fear is provoked by the face of fascism!'' - Víctor Jara, murdered in Pinochet's coup.

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haha
Please tell me this is a joke, cause it's the funniest *beep* I've read in a while.

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as most people have pointed out already, the film isnt a "rip-off" at all, it is simply part of a pretty significant genre. and if it were a rip off, it certainly wouldnt be of Brave New World. The dystopia of BNW is brought about by dedication to efficiency and productivity, eventually rendering the citizens themselves merely "products." Alphaville is brought about by dedication to absolute logic and "leaving nothing unaccounted for" as mentioned by the Alpha 60.

If there is any parallel between the two, it might be the treatment of sex: in both sex is completely accepted and liberated (presumably as a means to keep people complaisant), but this is a major point of BNW, and is barely touched upon in Alphaville.

The rest of the ostensible similarities are just genre characteristics. I'm sure someone who doesnt listen to punk music at all might listen to a few contemporary punk bands and say "Man, these guys are just ripping off the Clash." But of course experience with more bands will lead one to realize that what you are hearing is just the characteristics of the genre, and nothing it being "ripped off."

By the way, I'm looking at the one comparison you make between the two films, "An outsider introduced to the futuristic world is perplexed by its way of life?" and I've been wracking my brain trying to remember details about BNW, and I just dont remember an "outsider." Am I remembering wrong? I thought it was more similar in structure to 1984, where a dissident tries to break free from within. No?


there's no place you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.

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In 1921, Zamyatin published a book called "We". "Brave New World" and "1984" were both "rip offs" of his work. Personally I found that the film had more in common with We than either of its more popular offshoots.

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Correct.

1984 is a british anticomunist rip off of We, a russian pro comunist novel.

Besides, a movie cant riping off a novel. A movie can rip off a movie, a novel can rip off a novel, but it cant mix or crossing novels/movies.

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