Alphaville and Life Aquatic


I don't really know anyone else who has seen Alphaville, but in my opinion it was very funny. I in no way mean that disrespectfully and I know that it isn't supposed to be and out and out comedy, but as I haven't heard anyone else comment on whether or not they also found it funny I wanted to see who else shares my opinion.

The parts that I found funniest were the scenes that contained violence of some sort (please don't think that I am a sadist) as it appeared to me to be so over the top and gung-ho. I assumed that this was completely intentional and thought it added a really great element to the film.

In regards to the title of this discussion, these scenes reminded me of the gunfight scenes in The Life Aquatic which were a bit more overt in being over the top. Now as I saw The Life Aquatic before I saw Alphaville I want to see if other people found similar humor in both movies or whether My view of Alphaville has been tainted by what I saw in The Life Aquatic.

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Touche' my friend. I saw Alphaville before Life Aquatic and must say that the scenes with violence in Alphville definitley came to mind when watching Life Aquatic, and it is surely due to the way they deal with the subject matter. The "action" scenes in Alphaville I felt like were over the top in a humorous way to comment on the action in other film noir movies, where as Life Aqautic seemed to be laughing more at the 90's action movies. Both great passes at the contemporary hollywood movies of the respective time periods. Good stuff. You've made a great observation about two great films, and I concur with it.

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lol this is so funny. I just thought about the same thing, when I saw the topic. I totally love those two movies (I saw Life Aquatic first) and agree with you on the similarities.

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Strange, I remember thinking about the life aquatic while watching alphaville, though i can't recall exactly why, i know it wasn't because of the shooting scenes. I'll have to see it again, i guess.
It also made me think of pulp fiction. i know QT is a big admirer of Godard and in the scene in which Lemmy Caution is captured and Natacha tells a joke, Natacha reminded me of Mia Wallace (the similar hair cuts probably had a lot to do with it also)
I also was reminded of Bertolucci's il conformista. Plotwise there are some similarities. But there is a scene in il conformista were Marcello and Manganiello are quarelling in a bathroom, they hit a lamp and the light swings in and out of the frame. In Alphaville the same thing happens with a light bulb in the staircase.

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I totally agree, Natacha really reminded me of Mia Wallace, first of all in her overall appearance, and also at the very end when everyone's going really crazy, Natacha's moving in much the same way as Mia's moving in her overdose scene in Pulp Fiction.

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Anderson uses a lot of new-wave stuff, I can definitely see the connection. I watched this recently and actually thought of Wes Anderson, so yeah, its understandable.

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wes anderson are influenced in many ways by godard and the new wave. He has confirmed this himself as well. The slapstic-like action in life aquatic is probaly a homage as well as the vivid color scheme...

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Vivid colour scheme? Last I checked 'Alphaville' (as well as a majority of the New Wave films) were in black and white. Not trying to be snarcy. I think his colour schemes are more a throw back to mid 60s-early 70s American, British and Italian films. French films from that period as well, but I'm not sure the New Wave were precisely where he got his colour influences from.

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I think a lot of people tend to forget that Godard has a pretty good sense of humor -- watch "Band of Outsiders," for example and it's full of out-and-out gags. It's a similar shock to when you find the comic bits and lines in "The Seventh Seal" or you remember that Bergman made a great comedy in "Smiles of a Summer Night."

To me there are very few great moviemakers who don't allow at least a little comedy into their films. It's like the way that even in "King Lear" or "Hamlet" Shakespeare makes sure to throw in puns, plays on words, slapstick, etcetera... great movies are like any other great art in that they have to show some of the richness of life and life is often pretty silly.

The action scenes in "Life Aquatic" made me laugh out loud -- the way Bill Murray would stand there with a gun while twenty guys were firing at him from point-blank range. Wes Anderson's got those deadpan New Wave touches down perfectly. I also liked the fact that it ended with that bizarre "Buckaroo Banzai" reference; it's the sort of thing Godard used to love, throwing in some steal from a cheap fun movie that maybe he and three others might recognize. Frankly I think Anderson's one of the best people going these days....

And if I did know Carl LaFong I wouldn't admit it.

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I laughed during the elevator scene, it's like Lemmy is tossed around like a pinball or something.

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I laughed during the elevator scene, it's like Lemmy is tossed around like a pinball or something.
Haha, yessss. I also thought the chaos sequence near the end was (intentionally?) hilarious... with the inhabitants of Alphaville and Natacha randomly throwing themselves into the walls and the like. I couldn't help but laugh during that part.

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And the part when he asks Henry "Who is she exactly?!!!" I laugh everytime I see that. It is just so over the top and melodramatic...

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The pinball elevator scene seems to me to be a reference to the silent films of Lloyd.

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wes anderson is my favorite director and today i saw "alphaville" for the first time and i definitely see the connection.

here's some things that i thought were funny in "alphaville".

- natasha: "what do you do for a living" lemmy: "i work."
- lemmy being thrown around in the elevator
- that dude that keeps reading from the book. lemmy just takes it and throws it away.
- people crawling around and throwing themselves at walls at the end.
- lemmy's laugh after natasha's story.

Where are you, Mount Everest? Give me some Everest.

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The difference between Anderson and Godard is that Godard's strange character interactions were based on a premise and objective: a joke at cinema (particularly Hollywood cinema) and deeper connecting comments about the character's interactions to the society. Wes Anderson's characters simply act strange to simply...act strange. Absurdity does NOT denote genius. Illogical filmmaking is best saved for those who can draw logic from within it. Wes Anderson's films do not leave me with any questions. Wes Anderson is good but is he anywhere like Godard? The answer is no.

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while i don't attempt to be a film snob or one who thinks his opinions are more important than others, i must agree here with ralec205 and say that even comparing the two films and directors is just silly. it's like comparing poetry to picture books.

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everytime i watch godard i pisss wrong

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Though I think Godard has more skillful artistry than Anderson, I have no problem understanding how he is not for everyone. Personally I am a bit wishy washy on lots of Godard stuff myself.
And I really like the comparison to picture books. Anderson is very skillful at drawing some beautiful frames and compositions but with little context within that content.

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everytime i watch godard i seem not to be able to piss right in the toilet, maybe because films to my eyes dont require me to overfink, i need escapism, i dont need art frames. id go to a dali museum for that thrill and even dali's art stuff are pretty honest at talking straight up to ur face, pot turning around is for hyena good for nothing people. The worst part is when some jewde comes to me and says u know godard is abstract, well to me abstract art has always been about research in a very mathematical sense beacause abstract art isnt abstract at all moron...picassos paintings are very if not the best translation of top, side and front view into 1 distorted perspective its just another way of seeeing he was smart enough to develop that type of artistic expression; whether u like it or not; the basic point is he(picasso) is trying to distort ur perspective and all other abstract artists; i mean the real ones base their abstract art around a specific research. Godard is just useless to me, unless someone can explain i still dont get the picture.

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The only thing that i think Godard is good at is a kind of guy de maupassant style or type of plot twisting, but i dont know if he even does that well. Well maybe somday uwe boll will be a genius who knowz

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