Kimba and Lion King


From my research I must say that Disney did start out with a Kimba remake. But when American rights were not found, they had to find some other way around since animators and writers were already at work. This explains why the Hyena henchmen and the stampede are in Lion King. The father in the sky is from Hamlet and played more off of "Nestor the long-eared Christmas donkey" than off "Jungle Emporer" where the father's in the moon rather in the sky.

The book "Dreamland Japan" (not Disney) said "When the controversy first erupted, opinion in the fan community was highly polarized between Disney loyalists who rejected outright any resemblance between the two films, and Japanimation fans who overemphasized the resemblance and hoped Tezuka Productions would "stick it to Disney."

Obviously, the actual makers of the film new but not Disney's outer shell. Make's me wonder if Disney confessed the similarities right not, how would Kimba fans react.

http://www.stonebridge.com/DREAMLAND/dreamland.html

http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm

Plus, why would Disney (with the DVD picture of a white lion) show that anyway?

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Didn't the Simpsons or one of those shows do a take-off where the father slips and says "Kimba... er, I mean... Simba" ???


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In all fairness, The Lion King was strongly based on Hamlet.

There's lots of things you can do in 12 minutes. Suck a mint. Buy a sledge. Have a fast bath.

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Story-lines and plot structure aren't even close, the characters are stock, Simba is maybe linked, but maybe not (it's one of five names that are Swahili words, whereas 'Kimba' means nothing in any language), and the frame-for-frame, well it's hard to write a movie staring lions centrally and not get at least a few similar scenes compared to a 26 hour series staring lions centrally (and scenes featuring different characters can't be considered more than similar). If you want to convince me, give me a point-by-point analysis of the plot and characters, and do try to be objective about it, rather than the bratty little fan-boy you sound like.

Also for plot points:

Kimba's father is the king of a jungle
vs.
Simba's father is the king of a big patch of savannah


Kimba's father is killed by a hunter (apparently) for stealing domestic cattle off human villages.
vs.
Simba's father is killed by his brother out of greed.


Kimba is shipped off with him mother to a zoo, but escapes when the ship founders in a storm.
vs.
Simba is chased off alone by hyenas, but escapes when he falls into a field of thorn-bushes.


Kimba nearly drowns at sea, but is taught to swim by fishes and guided to land by butterflies.
vs.
Simba nearly dies in the desert, but is rescued at the last by Timon and Pumbaa.


Kimba is raised by two humans somewhere in the Middle-East.
vs.
Simba is raised by Timon and Pumbaa in an African Jungle.


Kimba is eager to get home.
vs.
Simba is not eager to go home, and is only shamed into it eventually by Rafiki.


Kimba brings the wonders of human civilisation to his jungle home.
vs.
Simba overthrows his tyrannical uncle to allow his land to regenerate.


Do any of those actually sound similar to you? They certainly don't to me.

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wow are you reaching. The names were practically the same and the basis of the story is the same. Even in remakes of movies such as Spiderman, you can see vast changes and differences but it doesnt' mean the foundation isnt' taken from the story.

If they had enough money they would have wont he lawsuit against Disney but they didn't.

Of course it's similiar. EXTREMELY. This is one of the most blatant rip offs of all time and after Mr. Disneys' death, Disney became a corporate machine instead of an entertainment pioneer.

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The names were practically the same...
Simba is one of the five names in the film that is a direct translation of a Swahili word.

and the basis of the story is the same.
The basis of The Lion King is Hamlet, don't know about Kimba.

This is one of the most blatant rip offs of all time...
Would you still be saying that if they'd used anything other than lions as the main characters?

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Actually, Kimba was invented for the American dub, the Japanese name was Leo.

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Until you realise that MGM couldn't possibly have claimed copyright on the name, not with both the astrological symbol and part of the scientific name of the lion (Panthera Leo in general, Panthera Leo X for subspecies, including the Barbary Lion, which is P. Leo Leo.

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^Didn't read a damn word in the post above him because he's not interested in debating and details, or because of his own awareness that his low-IQ and arrested development prevent him from debating.

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