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Please Warner colorization for F-Troop season 1 dvd


Please tell me that Warner will be releasing this show in both color and B+W; Same as bewitched and I dream of jeanie. I would love to see it in Color. Please warner I would love for my kids to watch this great show; Kids nowadays don't take to well to Black + White shows.

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Colorization is evil. Besides, the second season is in color.

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Not neccessarily the case, especially with kids nowadays that will not sit down to any movie or old Tv show (no matter how good/classic)if it's in BLACK + WHITE. Variety is the spice of life. Movie companies should give it's viewers the option akin to what sony has done with "I Dream of Jeanie" Both B+W and color version are available on DVD....If they already have the license to a movie or show; By spicing every ones interest movie companies can increase their profits triplefold . With that in mind; colorize "The Munster" And the movie "Some like ir hot".

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I've just never liked colorization, I grew up watching F Troop when it was on Nick @ Nite and the black and white episodes never bothered me. In fact I preferred them!

I just like to leave the classics the way they were, if people don't like it just because it's in b&w it's their loss.

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I totally agree crankymisfit....colorization stinks! I hope they do not colorize the first season episodes of F Troop. All the great directors hate colorization including Martin Scorcese as well as the late great Orson Welles who is rumored to have said on his death bed "Don't let Ted Turner get his hands on my movies" because that was back when Ted was colorizing some of the classics he had purchased in the MGM library. They can't even get the process to look good! George Romero who wrote and directed Night Of The Living Dead was very angry when he saw the colorized version of that film. As you know if you have seen the film it opens with a young couple in a graveyard and it is they who first encounter a zombie. He comes shambling toward the young woman in the group but she doesn't feel threatened at first because the zombie looks like an ordinary man from a distance....well in the colorized version the zombie is green...lol prompting Romero to say well i don't know about you but if i saw a green dude coming at me i would just run....lol So once again a dramatic moment is ruined by colorization. If it is meant to be in black and white so be it. I'm only 38 and black and white never bothered me a bit!

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lancelotofthelake seems to have as much objection to the truth as he does colorization.

1) Orson Welles never made such a statement, and Orson Welles dropped dead suddenly, and unexpectedly, at his typewriter at the age of 70. He never had a death bed. Also, Welles retained the rights to 'Citizen Kane'. No one could have colorized it, or made any alterations of any kind, without Welles consent. lancelotofthelake doesn't seem to know that 'The Magnificent Ambersons' had already been colorized, so had Welles made such a comment (which he did not), it would have made no sense!

2) George A. Romero was not "very angry" when the first version of 'Night Of The Living Dead' was colorized by Hal Roach Studios in the 1980s. He did not approve of it, but since incompetance caused the film to lapse into the public domain, there was nothing he could do about. Anybody can do anything they want with that film. Romero's only comment about the first colorized version was that the suprise of the man in the graveyard attacking Barbara does not work in the colorized version because the man is clearly green, even when we see him in the distance. He never mentioned being "very angry" when seeing it, and GAR is very candid!

lancelotofthelake doesn't mention, or doesn't know, is that the current colorized 'Night Of The Living Dead' by Off Color Films & 20th Century Fox is a brand new colorization, using a restored print, and enhanced colorization technology.

And the Zombies are NOT green in this version. The DVD also includes the same restoration in B&W, as well as a DTS soundtrack for the first time, and a commentary track by Mike Nelson of MST3K.

Let people make up their own minds. They don't need self righteous ignoramuses spreading half truths and lies.

If George Romero and company had been more careful, they would have retained copyright and could have prevented colorization. But if they had copyrighted the film, the film would never have been widely seen on television which prompted the demand for 'Dawn Of The Dead' and the rest!!

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I'd rather the shows or movies stay the way they were. Probably not the same for TV shows, but movies used the shades for specific effects and I've heard several directors and so-called "experts" say you just can't get the same visual effect with color. So, at least for me, I want to see it the way the director meant for me to see it.

As for "spicing every ones interest" and there being nothing wrong with that, well then why not add in some boobs. You'll get every teenage boy watching it if every scene had a boob. OK it's a exaggeration, but the point is if you need to spice something up to get a brain dead child to watch it, then they aren't going to like it anyway. If it's stupid in black and white, it's stupid in color. And if your kid thinks that way, then there's a wealth of entertainment and knowledge that the moron will never learn about.

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Amen, backus!

I know it remains popular, but I'm not a fan of colorization.

I appreciate that it's a technical "miracle", and yes it's amazing that computers can re-process black and white film and "paint" a million frames with relatively few mistakes.

The "Zorro" series was colorized, and judging from the message board here many fans heartily approve. I think there's something akin to a "suspension of disbelief" involved, to the extent that if one likes the idea of colorization to begin with, one tends to accentuate the positive and "not notice" the negative.

Call me picky, picky, picky, but to me there's a "Fifty Shades of Brown" quality to even the best colorization.

And I'm sure that the mostly-deceased actors who appeared in colorized productions would be appalled at the sort of fake-tan look imposed on colorized faces.

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What a miserable idea. Kids do watch B&W shows. This is just another attempt to cater to, to dumb-down, to acquiesce to every little whim some child may have. But if that's what you want why not colorize The Maltese Falcon, Psycho, Casablanca. I suggest you keep on watching those old Black and White movies with your kids and soon enough they will see how good those shows were.
Colorization is a a bad idea.

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Agreed - colorization is awful and wrecks the integrity of the original production team's vision. That's why there's a ban on it with most of what was originally filmed in B&W and case law supporting that position.

If your kids "don't take to b&w" that's their problem, and they're going to miss out on a lot of great classics. But at some point, I think reality will dawn on them. And it doesn't increase the sales of DVD's, and in fact, they make less money on colorized versions because of the high production costs.

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I second that motion!
My kids are the same, they flat out refuse to watch anything in b&w, which is their loss. I put it down to the superficiality of modern life. I remember the introduction of colour TV (never mind how old I am) having zero impact on me as a child as we only had a b&w set anyway! Colourisation (a stupid invented word)of a classic is like adding a laugh track. Makes it easier for those lacking in insight to enjoy, but adds nothing.

BTW it's the "Burglar of Banff" not the bandit you Phillistines!

"Turn up on time, know your lines, do the job."
Sir Anthony Hopkins on acting.

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Hmmmm... when I was first watching Lost In Space, I did not realize the first season was in B&W, because we did not get our first color TV until the next year, just in time to see season 2...

I have a possible compromise - let's have the option to colorize almost any 60's show that was filmed in B&W for economic reasons.

Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, F Troop would not lose anything by being properly colorized. I would love to see season 1 of LIS in color.

On the other hand, the original Twilight Zone and Outer Limits should only be in Black and White, forever...

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Colorizing is evil, IMHO :). Sometimes they come out okay colorized but often you get weird colors just because of the way with B&W film you sometimes used odd colors which when photoed B&W look correct. For example to get a good black you used Brown. A decent example of bad colorizing is Yankee Doodle Dandy,looked fine in BW but after it was colorized some of the outfits and such looked absolutly horrible.

Not to mention the fact that colorizing adds to Disc production costs which I'm sure the studio would pass on to the consumers by raising the cost of the sets including the B&W set to get back the cost. Last thing I want is for prices to go up.

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Please tell me you are joking. If your kids don't watch B&W show, it's a reflection of poor parenting skills. I came close to report this post as abuse.

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This is just ridiculous--my kids watch B & W shows, it has even been a great springboard for discussions about why the shows are not in color and what life was like when I was a kid. What about Charlie Chaplin movies?
It's as bad as parents saying that their kids won't eat vegetables or drink milk so they HAVE to buy them bad junk food!
If you took them to an art museum, would you only show them art in color? What about charcoals? What about an Ansel Adams photography exhibit?
The only reason the 2nd season is in color is that all network programming had to switch to color starting in the 1966-67 season because there were enough color TV sets by then.

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Ok, using the same arguement that "kids won't sit down to watch black and white" let's chop the show into 10 or 15 minute pieces since kids don't like to sit around too long, short attention spans. Lets not do anything that might make kids experience something new.

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I have to cast my vote with those opposing colorization. I've never seen *anything* colorized that I thought was an improvement. Assuming you had a talented director in the first place, he probably used the "feel" of b&w differently than he would have used color. So just colorizing the existing footage isn't a fair "translation". I'd be horrified to imagine some classics (first season "Wild Wild West", anything 3 Stooges, early "Adventures of Superman" to name the tips of the icebergs) as colorized.

As to kids who won't watch b&w, I agree it's their loss. But there are kids who only listen to rap, who won't eat vegetables, and who only play videogames. But I wouldn't add gangsta lyrics to "Pirates of Penzance", chocolate coating to carrots, or joysticks to our football stadiums to attract more modern youth. Then it becomes *everyone's* loss! All IMHO, of course :-)

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I've said this many time before: Those who want original B&W shows to be colorized truly wish Ted Turner would colorize the beginning and ending of
"The Wizard Of Oz".

"There are 10 kinds of people, half understand binary and half don't!"

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Sorry for the sarcasm big_garr. With just the two seasons it WOULD be nice for both to be in color. Though not released in color on DVD, the broadcast episodes of [[edit - season 1] of Gilligan's Island were colorized and done fairly well. There should be an option for F-Troop. Your point well taken!

"There are 10 kinds of people, some understand binary and some don't!"

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Great idea! At the same time, let's crop the Mona Lisa for 16x9 TV sets. At the time it was painted, 16x9 wasn't the norm. Sorry, Mona Lisa, you're getting cropped so we don't have any of those annoying black bars.

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I've never seen a colorized version of anything that was an "improvement", but as I used to be dead set against it, I now believe the consumer should be given a choice - both versions should be offered (on the same discs) so purists can watch the original vision, and those who disdain B&W can watch these classics.

Of course, how far back should you go? That is the question. For TV, just colorize the episodes of shows which have later seasons in color, so they can be brought up to snuff. For any movies, it would be stupid to colorize everything. How about drawing the line at the "modern era", around 1950 or so? Yes, I understand that there were color films before that, but they were the anomalies, not the norm (it used to be a budgetary consideration as well as an artistic one to use black and white, just as it was a consideration to use color in big budget musicals).

The Great Oz has spoken.

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