Santa
Mrs. Claus
Donner
The Reindeer Coach
Clarice's father
The Head Elf
The Lion King (on the Island of Misfit Toys)
The Abominable
What if Rudolph returned to the North Pole with an Uzi?
I think you'd get your answer on what could've happened back from a skit done on MadTV I believe. I don't remember what year the episode was, but it also parodied in the Godfather.
shareWell, the story IS about a reindeer who becomes a pariah simply because he's different. Not exactly sure how one would convey that story with all - or even a majority of - nice characters.
shareAnd at least everyone learns the error of his ways.
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LBJ's mistress on JFK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcXeutDmuRA
Which was the point. No one learns from the error of their ways if everyone is perfect from the start since there is no error to their ways.
Some people, like the OP, seem to miss basic storytelling 101. *sigh*
I don't recall Mrs. Claus being mean. She might nag Santa a bit for being to skinny but that was so he didn't disappoint the kids.
He's taking the knife out of the Cheese!
Do you think he wants some cheese?
The Lion King (on the Island of Misfit Toys)
Have to agree...and I saw this when it came out and was 11 years old. Thought exactly the same thing. Rudolph should have hit them with a comp package for himself. You know, to smack 'em back for all their rudness to him. They only wanted to accept him when they needed his help. Ha!
Pay me the big bucks baby...or you can go fly your own sleigh. I'll be back by the fireplace makin' out with Clarice!
Lol...This is what another poster said and I totally agree.
I just watched this and actually paid attention for once. This is a terrible example for kids. The whole town, including Santa Claus treats Rudoulph like a sack of sh!t just for being born different. The other reindeer want absolutely nothing to do with him. His own father is embarrassed by him and even his mother offers him little comfort. The other reindeer make fun, laugh at him and won't allow him to play with them just because he looks different. They are so nasty to him that he runs away but later, on X-Mas eve, he returns home to find all the ones that initially treated him like sh!t are in a huge bind because of the weather. Then they notice how bright Rudoulph's nose is, which gives Santa the bright idea that Rudoulph's nose could guide his sleigh through the snow storm. Now that Santa realize he could use him, Rudoulph is welcomed back with open arms. Poor Rudoulph's self esteem is so low from being treated like an outcast and made fun of his whole life that he's happy to allow them to use him just to be accepted and liked. Really? Who wrote this? What message are they trying to send? Its okay to allow people to ostracize and mistreat you if you are different and let them use you to do the hard work while they take all the credit?
Santa is the biggest jerk of them all,in this one!
shareThe show is a fable to explain why segregation is bad. It looks gloomy and nasty to us because our world and cultural expectations of what is appropriate conduct HAVE altered so drastically since the 1960's.
The misfit toys and Rudolph are children with disabilities. Rudolph is sent home from Reindeer school after his disability is discovered. He cannot participate anymore even though he had the best take off.
When they are on the island of misfit toys, it is bleak--like an institution. King moonracer says he brings the toys to the island. He does not say how the toys get off once they are brought. The toys tone of voice in their song make it clear that they actually do not want to be there. They are unhappy and desperately want to leave.
They also have disabilities (elephant with spots, train with square wheels, water pistol shooting jelly, bird which cannot fly, dolly which is not happy).
It looks odd to us in an era when we have Special Education in the local neighborhood school, we are not taken away from our families just because we have disabilities, we can attend college....etc
Times have changed, not for the better.
Whoever that poster was either didn't watch it all the way through or missed the point of it.
The idea was that they didn't accept the misfits at first, but after hearing their story when they returned, they realized they had been wrong. As for King Moonracer, he was being honest about why they couldn't stay on the Island.
shareHe said that a misfit living being can't hide himself away from the world the way a misfit toy did.
Although I wonder why he didn't try to contact Santa sooner about finding homes for the toys. It seems some of them had been there for years.
Rudolph probably spent all that time trying to survive and such, or maybe got lost on the way back to the North Pole.
shareNo phones, computers, or mail service...
shareThere were no computers or Internet or E-Mail in 1964.
shareThat was my point. King Moonracer had no way to contact Santa about finding homes for the toys. Although... he flew around the world everyday looking for misfit toys. He could have stopped by the north pole every now and then.
shareTo be frank, it would be hard to stop around the North Pole if you're traveling around the world nearly every day searching for Misfit Toys.
shareThe north pole is part if the world. How could stopping there be any more difficult than stopping anywhere else, especially in a cartoon world where anything is possible?
shareNobody ever asked the Misfit toys what they wanted--self determination. They wanted to be with children, just like any other toy.
sharePutting them away on the island for their own "protection" had ironically done way more harm than good. They were marked by not being loved and played with vs their 'misfit' status.
Like a person/child with disabilities (common until 1970's) they were warehoused at the institution with nothing to do but sit around bored all day.
And realistically Santa has a 'flying' sleigh he can fly anywhere around the world. Not having already flown to the island of Misfit Toys is because this place was deliberately supposed to be isolated away from everybody and 'everything' imaginable.
You missed the point of the special. If you hate it, then here's a thing: why did you watch it? Why listen to a song you hate?
Plus King Moonracer, (the Lion King) wasn't nasty, he was actually a pretty good character.
Agree he wasn't nasty he had just put them away for their own protection. When he finally realized that they did not want to be protected and wanted to be out and about, and there was a trusted reliable way to give the toys their freedom, Moonracer also agreed they needed to leave the island. He listened to the toys on the island and did not ignore them and their needs.
This is why the story has a happy ending---it's not only Rudolph getting to lead the sleigh. It's the toys getting to leave the island and also getting to be with kids who will love them for who they are.
I always fantasized about the island being permanently shut down and king moonracer becoming an advisor to Santa so no toy would ever be a misfit again.
That should have been the sequel. Or (since he can fly too) King moonracer helps with the flying school on Santa's island, teaching ethics unlike reindeer coach donner who wants everything the same.