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Should have ended after the Chicago song


I like the movie, but I would have loved it, if it had just ended after the Chicago song. I'd have prefer for Robbo to end doing well, compared to the rather depressing ending the movie does have.

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i have to agree, that would have been a great ending.

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That would have been too soon as Guy had not yet been taken care of.
I always hated that ending as well.

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That is true, Guy is still around, (and I do like the scene where we find out what actually did happen to him), still there's not a big showdown with him as is, it all happens off screen.

I do actually always turn the movie off after the Chicago song, there's a nice black screen for a couple of seconds, it's perfect for it. And it feels a lot like a finale since everyone is singing. Frankly the Guy thing doesn't bother me all that much, the only thing that makes turning it off there problematic is Little John. The last you see of him, he's getting ready to work with Marian (a plot line that has never made sense to me, since the exact next scene he shows up in, he does a complete turn around and no one ever seems mad at him for it, it feels far to fake a plot line for me, just being set up to bring about the ending, anyways). But it's still very vague, and you never 100 percent *hear* him say he's going to work with her. So, turning it off at the Chicago song, is still my preferred way of watching it.

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The Motion Picture Production Code was still being enforced when this movie was made. Gangsters HAD to lose. According to the Code, bad guys could never ultimately win, or walk away clean. They could be redeemed, but, like in Ocean's Eleven, where the robbery money was burned, they couldn't get away with it. That's why Robbo is on the street at the end. Crime wasn't allowed to pay.

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Surely the Rat Pack could have ignored the Code?Although a sequel would've been a good idea.I believe "Style" to be their anthem and that Sammy should have joined in it.

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Ah! Great point! I never made the connection for this film. Thanks for pointing that out!

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At that time, no one could ignore the code, movies did not get released at all without approval, not major ones in big houses. Bad guys just could NOT win, even on t.v. Consider all the twisting Alfred Hitchcock had to do with his t.v. show even to explaining after the criminal succeeds on film, to explain that later they got caught out.

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And when the code was gotten rid of in the late 60's we ended up having the arguably the best decade in movie history because of it (the 70's).

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Another great time was pre-code Hollywood. The talkies started in about 1929, and until the 1934, almost anything went with movies. See Baby Face, The Divorcee, Red Headed Woman, to name a few. Classic movies that showed actual human relationships, and the bad guys mostly got away with it.

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But Marian was a big a crook as any of them, with her printing of counterfeit money.

Why should she have been allowed to get away with it?

It would have made much more sense to let Robbo walk away clean - he became the big philanthropist after all.









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I saw this for the first time today, showing it at my library as part of a program.

I was a little surprised at the end myself, but it depends on how you look at it. Robbo and his buddies may be living in much-reduced circumstances, but they do seem to be relatively happy with their lot--still trying to do good for others, and even reprising Alan's song at the end about doing good.

Whereas...what has Alan gained? On the surface, a rich lifestyle and a gorgeous girlfriend...who is treacherous and amoral. It won't take much for her to decide Alan needs to be part of some masonry once he no longer suits her needs...and Alan's got to know that!

I got the vibe, at the tail-end, that Robbo, Will and John realized that they were well out of a lifestyle that would leave them forever looking over their shoulders for the next guy to stab them in the back...that they felt they were better off like this after all.

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That's funny because at 123 minutes, when I saw this at the theater, my mother claimed I came home late and the movie must have ended and where did my brother and I go after the movie.

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What a fun movie this must have been to see in theaters!

I remember my sister got this movie on VHS for her birthday a good many years ago. We got to stay up late to watch it all and we loved how long it was because it meant we got to stay up extremely late that night! :-D

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Oh yes! We were in grade school and it was kind of an adult movie for us. And to see bad guys that were cool! Plus we lived in Chicago. This movie was about our hometown. To add to it we went with the kid across the street, he left early and mom used that as evidence we were fooling around somewhere. We were banned from going to the movies for a long time after that. R7 was Worth it!

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I just watched it and while I enjoyed it overall I didn't care for the ending either, though it is kinda funny that Bing Crosby comes out on top albeit as Marian's new boy toy.

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Maybe that ending fell fowl of the US Production Code, which at the time stipulated that no crime movie could be ever seen to pay

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My 'garbage' opinion happens to be wikipedias opinion as well.... and I think you only hate me because I am right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code


The production code between 1930-1968 sought not only to determine what could be portrayed on screen but also to promote traditional values.[32] All criminal action had to be punished, and neither the crime nor the criminal could elicit sympathy from the audience,[8] or the audience must at least be aware that such behavior is wrong, usually through "compensating moral value".[28][33] Authority figures had to be treated with respect, and the clergy could not be portrayed as comic characters or villains. Under some circumstances, politicians, police officers, and judges could be villains, as long as it was clear that those individuals portrayed as villains were the exceptions to the rule.[34]


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But did the Production Code have
any legal authority? It had been established in 1952 that the First Amendment applied to the movies. I have a vague dream of using computer technology to change the endings of some old movies.

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