James Bond is a square!
He deserved getting whacked on the head from Odd-Job after that Beatles comment about needing ear muffs to listen to them! What a nerd! š
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Bond is correct, in 1964 the Beatles were a hit, but lets face it, ....musically werent much better than the 50s sound. It was only later when Lennon, and McCartney REALLY came into their own.
shareAt the time, in the middle of 1964, the Beatles were still that new weird fad the kids were all screaming over - their movie 'A Hard Days Night', coming out a short while later, changed the game considerably, showing them as a true force to be reckoned with.
shareI'm a huge Beatles fan, but I never found the comment that odd. As stoneman said their early stuff wasn't exactly phenomenal. Their early popularity had more to do with their image than the music. I rarely listen to any of the early stuff, Beatles For Sale is about the earliest I go and even then it's just cherry picking certain songs. Rubber Soul was the real turning point. And besides I never considered Bond's cool coming from his appreciation of pop culture. In my mind Bond probably doesn't even bother with music that much, let alone rock/pop. He's cool because he has the ladies, cars and is a tough SOB. Not because he hangs out at the record store and has a vast knowledge of music. I doubt a poonhound like Bond cared much for songs about love and hand holding. For him THAT was for squares. Bond wouldn't have been at a Beatles concert screaming like a 13 year old girl and wetting his pants.
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1.James Bond was a jazzman! Its obvious heĀ“s got that attitiude.
2. The Beatles was the first great rockband in the 60s. They were absolutely great musicians after a thousand gigs in Hamburg. There was no competition. Look for info yourself! The thing is that they were famous for being wild and screaming their rocksongs, something Europeans and even American artists could not do after the death of rockn roll in the USA (banning). One intepretation of the "earmuff" line would be that they were too loud, wild and shouting so that Bond would have needed earmuffs to shut out the noice.
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shareI haven't hears anyone use the term "square" since the sixties. Doesn't that make you a square, Daddy-O? AnywayBond should be in his mid thirties. He would hardly enjoy the latest boy band, any more than Craig would like One Direction.
That said, I think it's always a mistake to put contemporary reference in. It just helps to date them
Square is a term still used today among the demimondaine. It means someone who is not in The Life. You did not know that, so you are a square, possibly a trick. And, as they say in The Life, there is nothing lower than a trick.
shareI think we are misinterpreting what Bond meant. You see, in Britain headphones were called earmuffs. He was talking about how necessary it is to listen to The Beatles in the best stereophonic arena, at least before the wide panning of Rubber Soul/Revolver reared its head(ache.)
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I love the Beatles, both their early and latter period stuff . Indeed, Bond and Beatles are two of my very favourite things, and both exploded in popularity in 1964.
Bond is a man in his mid to late 30s, and wouldn't really be up on the latest pop cultural trends, I don't think. At that time, the Beatles were probably perceived as just the latest fad. No one could have imagined people would still be listening to them a half century later
If you think headphones give a better stereophonic experience than properly-placed loudspeakers, you know literally nothing about acoustics.
share...after that Beatles comment about needing ear muffs to listen to them!
I have always interpreted that remark as having to do with the screaming fans in the audience drowning out the music, thus the need for ear muffs.
Bond is cool, he would have been up on the Beatles.
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I bet the prevalent view in that day was that the young Beatles were a bunch of upstarts for the bubble gum kids to enjoy but not for "sophisticated adult society"...I don't blame Connery for his view of them, at least not in 1964.
shareThank you! The truly salient part of Bondās comment was the proper temperature of Champagne, demonstrating his hedonism. Beatles circa 1964 were a wall of noise. Unlike most of you, I was there.
shareThank you! The truly salient part of Bondās comment was the proper temperature of Champagne, demonstrating his hedonism. Beatles circa 1964 were a wall of noise. Unlike most of you, I was there.
And the term āsquareā is very much alive and well in 2019. It is used by pimps and callgirls to describe people who are not members of what they call The Life.
Ironic how Paul McCartney sang the theme for Live and Let Die in 1973. He was a good sport about the joke.