overrated?


I'm new to the bond movies and i just recently started watching them
I began with the craig Movies and then started from the beginning
And i have to say i liked DR. no & from russia with love more than goldfinger
From russia with live is the best bond film i have seen so far.

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I'm new to the bond movies and i just recently started watching them
I began with the craig Movies and then started from the beginning
And i have to say i liked DR. no & from russia with love more than goldfinger
From russia with live is the best bond film i have seen so far.


Strange. have done the same thing, have decided to watch all the bond films from Dr No onwards. I really loved the first three so far and Golfinger is definately my favourite, such a magnificent film, and frwl was the least favourite of the three. It was kind of drawn out at times I thought, whereas the other two were not.

I thouroughly enjoyed Golfinger, the music, the car, the girl/s, and of course Oddjob who is still scary to me now. As a kid I always remembered the scene where he crushed the golf ball with his bare hands and like I say a genuinely terrifying character.

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I watched Goldfinger last night all the way through for the first time in over forty years and I have to say that it was a real disappointment. The gadgets are still cool, but the story is pretty ridiculous at times, such as when Goldfinger explains his elaborate Fort Knox plan to his criminal associates only to gas them moments later. Why waste the time? Obviously, that clunky expository scene is only in the movie for the benefit of the viewer, it serves no purpose in the context of the story itself. Goldfinger seemingly lets one of those associates go, but then Oddjob drives him around Louisville, shoots him in the backseat, takes the car to an auto wrecking yard, has the car crushed, and then brings the crushed car back to Goldfinger's estate. There's no real reason to crush the car (and where's the blood?), and why take the chance of hauling around evidence of murder in broad daylight? Sure, all of this shows that Goldfinger has no heart of gold, but it makes no logical sense. It initially appears that the sequence is designed for Bond to get intel to Felix Leiter, but all it does is send Felix on a wild goose chase that leads absolutely nowhere, as Felix never gets the note that Bond had planted on the criminal associate. It isn't until the denouement that we find out that the American authorities learn of Goldfinger's plan through Pussy Galore, but that doesn't make sense either. Dozens (perhaps hundreds) of people die at Fort Knox before the evil plan is thwarted, put into play by Pussy's own "Flying Circus," who gleefully gas the entire post. At the end, Bond treats her as the hero that she is not, or perhaps he just figures that he'll get one last roll in the hay with her before he turns her over to authorities. Either way, you have to have a very broken moral compass to want to have sex with a woman who was partially responsible for the deaths of many U.S. servicemen, not to mention the Korean henchmen.

On an entirely different front, many of the fight scenes are not well choreographed, looking rather sluggish. This is particularly true of the one between Bond and Pussy (completely laughable throws), but also the concluding one between Bond and Oddjob (who doesn't even flinch when a gold brick hits him square in the chest) at Fort Knox. Finally, the whole loss of cabin pressure in the plane scene when Bond and Goldfinger fight at the end of the movie is a joke; as is the idea that the plane's controls are rendered useless with a loss of cabin pressure, especially in the hands of an experienced pilot (Pussy).

I got a hold of this movie so that I could show it to my teenage sons (at a current 7.8 IMDb rating, it's easily regarded as the best Connery entry in the series), but my memory of it didn't match current reality. Needless to say, my sons weren't terribly impressed. As a fan of classic movies (I've seen literally thousands of movies that predate this one), I'm constantly telling them that just because something is old doesn't mean that it isn't good. Fortunately, sometimes when I show them an old film, the film makes the case for me. With Goldfinger, however, I was a bit embarrassed. If Goldfinger isn't the gold standard for the series, what is?

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They don’t ‘gleefully gas the entire post’, Pussy’s intervention means the canisters were switched for harmless ones. Felix and the soldiers were all faking death so they could launch their surprise attack and catch GF red-handed.

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Its place as quintessential 007 is overrated, yet the film itself remains great entertainment.

From Russia With Love is the finest, & should be promoted to mainstream audiences as such. Alas, gadgets & one liners take the headlines.

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Dr no is my favourite connery Bond. goldfinger doesn't appeal to me nearly as much.

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Looking at it from what I know now as opposed to circa 1967 when I saw this the first time as a kid, I poke holes in it when I watch it now. For example, addressing the one-star American general as Brigadier...I could see Bond doing this, but Felix was American CIA...he would have said General. Goldfinger's one henchman was wearing Air Force chevrons and a Korean era Ridgway cap...the Chinese or Korean minions used German MP-40 submachine guns, Moisin Nagant rifles and Walther P-38 pistols, except in Switzerland where they had Smith and Wesson revolvers. They ordered the American troops to use commando tactics...shouldn't it have been Ranger tactics? I know I'm picking nits...

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No, it's very good

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I have come to prefer Goldfinger because I think the plot is more creative, inventive and thoughtful than the other Bond films. Not stealing the gold but making it radioactive is 'inspired,' as Bond says.

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Agree 100 percent. GOLDFINGER is by far the Bond with the most creative plotline. There's ingenuity and great ideas on display throughout the film - and I'm not just talking about gadgetry here. I'm talking about IDEAS.

It's funny how rare that observation is.

It's almost as if audiences don't care that much about narrative ingenuity. Which is a shame.

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It's highly rated for good reason. It's not my favorite, nor would I call it the best film in the franchise, but it's probably the best stereotypical Bond film. It has all the elements and set the blueprint for many films to come. From Russia With Love is probably the best overall film but it's not your typical Bond movie. It was a little more convoluted and cloak & dagger. Goldfinger found the balance of action movie/spy thriller to get the general public excited about James Bond and it's the movie that kicked off Bond-mania and made the franchise popular all over the world. Goldfinger is one of the main reasons the Bond films are still around today. There have been several other great films along the way that have kept the public interested in the character, but Goldfinger is what made the character so iconic in order to allow it to become a continuing franchise in the first place.

"Dan Marino should die of gonorrhea and rot in hell. Would you like a cookie son?"

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" it's probably the best stereotypical Bond film. It has all the elements and set the blueprint for many films to come. "

Agree with above.

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