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They will never get Commodus right


Christopher Plummer was so miscast in the role of Commodus. They will never get him right. In Gladiator they definitely strayed from the real person. They used the name, but the Commodus in Gladiator was their own fictional character. Someday there should be a movie about Commodus that is fair and doesn't try to make him a villain. The best actor to play Commodus that I've seen is Alan Steel in a movie called The Rebel Gladiator. He was muscular and athletic the way the real Commodus was. The real Commodus looked like Hercules, was very handsome, very athletic, a skilled swordsman and a fine marksman. He fought in the arena to probably show off. He also believed he was Hercules reborn. He even went around dressed like Hercules and carried a club. The next Commodus I see in a movie should be like this. He's painted as a villain in movies. In Gladiator they had him a little mixed up with Caligula or Nero. I've read that he was more popular than his enemies would lead you to believe. The military loved him and the common people loved him. There are ridiculous stories that try to say he cheated in the arena. A man that believed he was Hercules reborn that even looked the part and could fight, would have no reason to cheat. In the arena he beat the best gladiators and killed beasts with one shot of his arrow. He was even merciful. He would never try to make the animals suffer. His kills would always be swift. When he had a gladiator beat, he would let them live. The terrible things written about Commodus were obviously written by his enemies to justify his murder.

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Well Commodus wasn't particularly evil but he was a pretty mediocre Caesar compared the great Caesars that preceded him - the Five Good Emperors which included Marcus Aurelius - but it is a bit unfair to compare him with the great Aurelius who was more than a Caesar as he was also one of the greatest Stoic philosophers, if not one of the greatest philosophers in general, of his age.

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The valid criticism leveled against Commodus, both in his time and today, is that he spent more of the empire's resources on his petty vanity than on the reinforcement of his territories. While it is true that he was more muscular and perhaps more accomplished than is portrayed in the Hollywood films (Gladiator showed him as a kind of combat groupie), the cost of Gladiatorial shows, exotic hunts, and animal sacrifice was immense and would have been better spent on wheat, infrastructure, or the soldiers.

Given the Eastern provinces were in rebellion, the western provinces routinely suffering disease, and Africa relatively mismanaged (and as depicted, in FORE, the barbarian uprisings not entirely quelled in the north), the expense is impossible to justify. Why import Elephants and lions for each show so the emperor can demonstrate his prowess when most of his empire is struck with starvation? It's the act of a selfish man.

Pax Romana, the idea of Roman peace, ended with the death of Marcus Aurelius. Aurelius, the great philosopher Caesar, the great philosopher king, was the last of the good emperors. In this sense, by proximity, Commodus was a fool and a failure. While significantly more sane than, say, Caligula, Commodus nevertheless in his time executed generals, his wife, lovers, poets, Senators, gladiators, and military leaders. While the portrayals in FORE and Gladiator are created with considerable artistic license, the negative impact he wrought on his Rome is not inaccurate.

Commodus, incapable of his father's noted stoicism, was a vain and self-indulgent man. His mimicry of Hercules is not a virtue, given what it cost the empire. There was a slave named Marcus Aurelius Cleander, in order to make more time for his Gladiatorial exercises, Commodus handed over the power of government appointment to this man. Cleander proceeded to sell off offices to the highest bidder opening an era of 'virtue and appointment by auction' and corruption that set in motion the downfall of Commodus himself (it also contributed to the year of five (bad) emperors where the title of emperor itself was given to the highest bidder).

Incidentally, Commodus himself was assassinated at the encouragement of his own guards, attends, and mistress because he had become so manic in his impulses.

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One thing seldom mentioned is that Commodus was made co-Caesar when he was 14...by his father Marcus Aurelius.

Therefore, Aurelius had his son in mind as the future emperor from a very young age -- which makes all these "Commodus was a fool and murderer" arguments seem rather strange. For if Aurelius was so smart and wise as his admirers claim, then why would he have chosen his "psychotic" son as his successor?

The answer is simple -- perhaps Commodus is not as bad as he has been painted. Remember, the only surviving WRITTEN records about Commodus are all by men who either did not like him or had been affronted by him in some way. It would be like if say Hitler wrote a book about some famous Jewish rabbi.

The fact is, Commodus was apperently well loved by the populace. There have been statues of him in "deified" status discovered all the way up in England, well outside of the sphere of his influence in Rome. Meaning -- even though they were so far away from any "retributions" for not doing so, those in England chose still to worship him as a god.

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Very good point.

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Nero was popular with the common people as well.

But the common people are easily discouraged by the game sand crap Commodus put on.

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Therefore, Aurelius had his son in mind as the future emperor from a very young age -- which makes all these "Commodus was a fool and murderer" arguments seem rather strange. For if Aurelius was so smart and wise as his admirers claim, then why would he have chosen his "psychotic" son as his successor?


Because Rome wasn't a meritocracy. Commodus was designated successor because he was Aurelius's son, nothing more. It was made clear when Commodus was as young as 5, long before his ability and personality were sufficiently developed to judge his fitness on meritocratic grounds, that he would succeed Aurelius as emperor.

The problem is that people, both admirers and detractors of the emperors, keep making the mistake of thinking of the Roman system and people through a modern lens rather than the way the Roman people, and in particular the Roman aristocracy, actually thought. They didn't think in terms of ability, at least not primarily, but in terms of the family and inheritance through the male line. In any conflict between these two principles, the aristocratic principle always prevailed over the ability principle, because Rome was a society based on aristocratic rule. It had been even during the republic, when an oligarchy of a minority of landowning families traded political power between each other, and like the emperors, would adopt sons from elsewhere when they had none of their own to continue the family line and legacy.

I have a book on Roman history with an interesting section that's relevant here. I'll quote it verbatim:

"Those who have admired Marcus Aurelius' many fine qualities have often criticized him for designating his only living son, Commodus, as his successor and abandoning the practice of adoption that had produced a series of remarkably able, dedicated and well-regarded rulers from Trajan to Aurelius himself. Such critics are prejudiced by extremely hostile accounts of Commodus' reign, and they forget that the practice of adoption was not any kind of theoretical alternative to dynastic succession. It was not a system based on the Stoic principle of choosing the most worthy individual regardless of birth. The practice of adoption was a reaffirmation of the dynastic principle.

Roman aristocrats had always resorted to adoption to maintain their families' existence in the absence of a natural heir. For various reasons, Nerva and his successors until Marcus Aurelius had lacked sons to succeed them. The dynastic principle was so strongly favored by the soldiers and common people, moreover, that Aurelius' four predecessors had felt it necessary to create sons where none existed. When it turned out that Aurelius had a natural heir, he had no choice but to proclaim him as his successor. Had he not, thousands would have supported Commodus, the first emperor "born in the purple" (i.e., during his father's reign), as having a superior claim to the throne. A disastrous civil war probably would have resulted. There is no reliable evidence, only later hostile rhetoric, that Aurelius had any doubts about Commodus' moral fitness to be emperor. He made Commodus his co-emperor in 177 to make sure that there would be no doubt about the succession."

- From "A History of the Roman People".

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i agree with all of you. The historical Commodus is more complex but has been depicted in one-dimensional terms by Hollywood.

Ancient history seems to indicate that Commodus' first four years of reign were actually competent and good because he followed the advice of counselors and advisors from his father's time. After four years, Commodus' reign declines in judgement and everything else.

History books critisized Commodus' decision to abandon Marcus Aurelius' plans to create two, new provinces, Sarmatia, and Marcommania, the purpose of which was to help keep the warlike northeastern Germanic tribes at arms length. But later history books took a more realistic view. It seems obvious that he based his decision on his father's very own advisors and those of the highest ranking military officials at the time. The Roman empire was totally exhausted and drained at the end of the devastating Marcommanic Wars. Manpower and financial resources were in very short supply. Adding two new provinces would have meant creating additional legions for which manpower and monetary means did not exist. Even if Commodus did establish those two new provinces, it was doubtful that he could hold either much less defend the new territory, given the lack of manpower and a drained treasury. Still, Commodus managed to secure what was in effect an unconditional surrender from the Marcommanic tribes and their allies and secure highly favorable peace terms that kept the frontier peaceful for another fifty years. Back in Rome, Commodus could rightfully claim glory as a victorious emperor, even if his late father did all the work. Commodus kept the populace of Roman happy and content with copius entertainment and ample supply of free bread. Commodus later intrigues and persecutions of the high ranked aristocratics who were in the Senate did not affect the common people and so he remained popular with both the army and the people

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