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Tarantino's homage to this movie.


Tarantino's production house A Band Apart (who made all of his movies and a few others) was named after this movie, which is supposed to be one of Tarantino's favorites.

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Not really, sorry. But I am positive there a a million tarantino fansites on the www so you can google your way to sucess, one site is bound to have it.
Methinks the list will contain a few Goddard movies (Taratino incorrectly considers himself to be the heir to Goddards throne, he is a good filmmaker though) a few 70's 'black' movie (by this i mean movies like Coffy, made with Pam Grier and such) and ???.

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Wow, aren't you the smart one here bright boy. It is not a "fan site" it is a PRODUCTION house. Read a little and talk less, it will get you further in life.

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TARANTINO TOP 10

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Leone)
Rio Bravo (Hawks)
Taxi Driver (Scorsese)
His Girl Friday (Hawks)
Rolling Thunder (Flynn)
They All Laughed (Bogdanovich)
The Great Escape (J. Sturges)
Carrie (De Palma)
Coffy (Hill)
Dazed and Confused (Linklater)
Five Fingers of Death (Chang)
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http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/topten/poll/voter.php?forename=Quentin&surname=Tarantino

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im terribly confused because thats 12 movies and sight and sound only lets you have ten films for their survey. how on earth did that happen?

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First, you misspelled "Bande à Part". Second, you mentioned 1983 remake of "A Bout de Soufle", "Breathless", as one of Tarantino's favourite films. I think you made a mistake. It's quite probably the original, 1960 Godard picture, wouldn't you agree?

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Nope. Tarantino has said he prefers the remake with Richard Gere. I thought the same thing.

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The Last Boy Scout is an underated movie, and in my opinion the quintessential 90's action movie, as well as Tony Scott's definitve statement as a director. I wonder if Tarantino's appreciation of The Last Boy Scout had anything to do with Tony Scott directing True Romance? Anybody know...

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The Last Boy Scout is a great movie, but as a fan of the Scott Bros. I consider Top Gun to be Tony's definitive statement as a director and True Romance his best movie

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the 'mad love' on that list couldn't possibly be the chris o'donnell/drew barrymore 'mad love'... could it?

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is it the 2003 willard or 1971?

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I immediately thought of the Pulp Fiction dance when I saw 8 1/2 also.

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I remember this list, and the first 3 are Quentin's favorite, "in no particular order". Instead of having them tied for 1st place, and moving to number 4 on the list... he just lists his 3 favorites... and then the another 9 of his favorites.

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get your head out of your ass, there is the slight matter of "Blow Out".

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I heard somewere that there is a dance scene in this movie (I have not had the plesure to see it yet) and that Tatantino did have an intertextural referens to this movie with the twist in Pulp fiction.

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Any man who puts "Frogs" in their all-time lists deserves respect and honor.

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Any man who puts "Frogs" in their all-time lists deserves respect and honor.

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That dance scene you are refering to maybe a short one in Fillini's 8 1/2, I think. But I night be wrong

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No, the dance scene in Pulp Fiction was inspired by the dance scene of Band of Outsiders. He showed the scene to Travolta and Thurman and had them improvise some moves having seen that scene.

And both scenes were utterly fantastic.

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If you want to see another, even more direct, reference to the dance scene in "Bande À Part" - see Hal Hartley's "Simple Men" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105411/). That's also a damn cool movie.

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Yes! And the fact they are dancing to Sonic Youth makes it just that bit cooler! :D

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Confirmed.

Tarantino states this during an introduction he gives to his DVD distribution of "City on Fire".

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where is this list with his favorite movies at ?

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Tarantino can't make a film of his own. He's a natural born thief.

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i agree. qt is a great filmmaker. its not fine when someone steals great ideas and makes a crappy film out of it. but if you steal and make great movies, then im fine with it as long as im entertained. tarantino can entertain the hell out of an audience, which why hes so popular. yes he steals, but he makes good movies which is what matters most...

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although i do agree that we shouldn't focus on tarantino on a goddard board, this is only one thread, and considering the influence goddard had on tarantino, it's not surprising to see him come up every once in a while. and i'm only going to say this because i think it needs to be said. too many film snobs (i'm not trying to offend anyone, i consider myself a film snob as well) think that all tarantino does is pay homage to old movies and doesn't do anythying original.i wholeheartedly disagree with that comment. although a big part of Tarantino's true talent is paying homage to other past films, there is way more to his talent. the reason i love tarantino so much is his dialogue. he makes conversations about tv pilots, foot massages, madonna songs, and countless other basically pointless topics interesting. its the way he uses his actors, i don't really consider michael madson a great actor, but in resevoir dogs and kill bill, he is amazing. same thing with samuel l jackson, who is good, but is only great when tarantino is directing him. and finally its his use of music, i've never heard a song in a tarantino movie that i felt didn't work with the scene. the man knows how to pick his music. so THAT'S why tarantino is a great director, admittedly, he's not ground breaking, but he does display a certain knowledge of movies (not just knowing movies, but knowing film theory) that cannot be found in the works of most other American directors today.

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Tarantino can't make a film of his own. He's a natural born thief.


So is PTA, and Scorsese and many other filmmakers. Some do it blatantly without hiding (PTA ripping off Scorsese) others do it subtly. Godard himself ripped off everyone. Coutard, his DP said when they'd be shooting a film, Godard would see a poster or read something and that idea would be in the film the next day. Filmmaking, by its nature itself is ripping off the next guy. It's a medium where an amalgam of ideas from outside sources are packed into 90 minutes.

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REALLY? WE DIDNT KNOW THAT

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he likes the gere version more

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I don't think Tarantino's completely off base with that comment. One of Godard's reoccuring themes is the influence of American culture & film on society. Michel in Breathless pretty much bases his thuggy persona on the gangsters he's seen in American movies.

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On the Chung-king Express DVD there is an intro/outro with Quentin and he openly admits to naming his studio thingy after the french tranlation of Band of Outsiders. There's a clip and everything totally confirming it.

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Hi there!

Aside from The Madison dance sequence (a fantastic scene, really!), can anyone tell me what other portions/scenes in "Band of Outsiders" that were referenced, subtly or directly, in Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction"? I'm interested to find out.

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The dance scene in Pulp Fiction was definitely 8 1/2 . No doubt about it, and Uma's character was based on the girl who does the dance in 8 1/2.

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Tarantino has said that Uma's primary move in the famous Pulp Fiction dance sequence was inspired by a dancing scene in Disney's The Aristocats. That doesn't preclude Bande a Part and 8 1/2 playing into it as well, of course. Nearly every scene in every one of Tarantino's movies is an insane mishmash of many different references.

And for the people saying Tarantino just swipes from other filmmakers and can't make his own movies: What do you think Godard was doing?


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And for the people saying Tarantino just swipes from other filmmakers and can't make his own movies: What do you think Godard was doing?


thats exactly what i was about to say, just watch the loot on band of outsiders and it has a visual gallery that is almost 20 minutes long of homages and references throughout the film to other fims/pop culture...
also it might be a subtle reference but in pulp fiction the wolf arrives in 9 minutes 37 seconds, beating out franz/arthur/odile's 9 minutes 43 seconds



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The conversation about uncomfortable silence leading up to the dance scene is held pretty much around the same time in Pulp Fiction.

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I've also read that the dance sequence in this film is itself intended to be an homage to Bob Fosse's style of choreography in films like "The Pajama Game," check it out and judge for yourself--I would definitely agree with the connection.

Strange how Godard was enamored with the cinema of American Hollywood from all eras, including those that can be considered his contemporaries, despite the oft defiant and revolutionary tones of his film-making.

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Tarantino has never come up with an idea that was soley his own. Every film of his is a classic cut and paste job. I guess you can be polite and call that paying homage, but it's more like ripping off!

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It's explained in the DVD extras of de à part. Godard's dance sequence has a certain quality - it's not danced that well (easy to spot if you know the Madison) but it's danced with a certain contagious enjoyment that is good. This is what Tarantino wanted Theurman and Travolta to pick up on, which they did. The two scenes bear not much relation to each other apart from the attitude of the actors to how they dance. I wouldn;t call that a rip off. There are a number of stylistic similarities between Godard and Tarantino - the intertextuality, the distanciation, use of pastiche. Godard's techniques on the other hand have often been copied - they revolutionised cinema in many small ways - but you can find better examples of direct copying (including the damce sequence) than Tarantino. You don't say about sound movies generally, "Oh that's just a rip-off of The Jazz Singer!"

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