IF, anybody agrees that the theme to TV show "Twelve O'Clock High" (1964) (Original Music by Dominic Frontiere (theme)) and the theme to TV show "Battlestar Galactica" (1978) (Original Music by Glen A. Larson & Stu Phillips) are similar, is there a reason?
TIA.
Does anyone know of a way to get the music of 12 O'Clock High ( not just the theme song ) but the music that is played during the episodes by Dominic Frontiere and Lionel Newman
shareI have looked quite awhile for the theme song of Twelve O'Clock High (TV) and the only thing I found is an album entitled "Television's Greatest Hits, Volume II" listed on allmusic.com. Not only is the review not very flattering to the 65 theme song on the album, the seller wants to much money. Wish you luck in your search.
shareThis is your one-stop shop to practically all TV theme songs (and they must have at least a thousand recordings): http://www.televisiontunes.com/ Not only that, almost all of them are original recordings, just the way you remember them. However, that is both a curse as well as a blessing. Most have been "ripped" right off the TV, practically. The original recordings are not stereo, not digitally remastered or enhanced in any discernible way, and sometimes are just plain bad recordings that sound like they were made by somebody holding a cassette player microphone up to a 10" portable TV speaker and taping it. That said, you can not only listen to everything there in its entirety for free, you can also download for free.
And now a word about 12 O'Clock High. While the TV Tunes album mentioned here had its failings, it actually has a very good reproduction of the closing version of this theme done to the original arrangement which I can recommend wholeheartedly, and which also has the advantage of being a stereo studio recording. Back when I first got the album myself, and having not seen the TV show in a number of years by then, I actually mistook their version for the original; it is that faithful.
I BELIEVE A CD OF FRONTIERE TV THEMES WAS ON AMAZON ................
sharesounds like Star Trek wripped the music right from this show
shareI've noticed this as well. I saw a "12 O'Clock High" episode broadcast on American Life this past Tuesday -- the episode was titled "POW Part 1" in which the ancillary music was indeed part of the "Star Trek" theme. The composer listed, I believe was Dominic Frontiere. The "Star Trek" theme is credited to Alexander Courage, and I can't find any indication that Courage scored for "12 O'Clock."
shareThats exactly the feeling I had. Not the main theme but the music that is played during the show, it's reallll close. I also watched Garrison's Gorillas and the same thing to Star Trek music, I also think Blue Light's musical interludes are very similar. Good Call!
shareI most definitely hear the Star Trek notes. Of course, 12OH came first but their version ends on some downward notes while the Star Trek one lifts up to some higher notes.
Also, some of the music bits in 12OH might be lifted if they were not inspired by THE OUTER LIMITS. But with Dominic Frontiere scoring music for both, it is understandable.
I watched an episode today for the first time in many years. I agree that many bits were reminiscent of Star Trek but also of another Quinn Martin show, "The FBI".
shareI, for one, have been obsessed by the haunting melody of the 12 o’clock High theme ever since I heard it as a kid in the 1960’s. Just this evening I was playing a 78 record I found at a yard sale of a Moss Hart play called Winged Victory from 1945 about the Army Air Forces. A song on the record, “My Dream Book of Memories” credited to Sgt. David Rose, is the EXACT melody of the 12 o’clock theme. Quinn Martin must have used it as a callback to the music of the time that the WWII Vets & public associated with pilots. Not unlike what they did for the Combat theme, which was a popular song both in Germany and the US at the time of the war. Wow, only took 40 years to solve that problem!
Greg Murphy
Greg,
I was a teen in the 1960's. The TV theme that I was really haunted by as a kid was "Navy Log". I must have been 4 to 6 when it was on the air. I hadn't thought much about the music for many years until I saw the film "Patton" and thought that Jerry Goldsmith ripped off Frederick ("Fred") Steiner. A few years ago I purchased a few VHS tapes of the program and was amazed that the music I remember was at the END of the show with the sailors on the carrier deck linedup to spell "NAVY LOG" when they ran the credits. Why as a 4-6 year old I would still be focused on the show's credits is beyond me.
BTW, I'm glad that you've gotten your answer.
--Bruce
I'd like to suggest to BARUBIN & the other Authors' of this post. You all have hit on a major valid question that I'd suggest you post it to the "Music" board http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000051/threads/
btw I too love the music
Duty, Honor, Country.
12OH has been on METV lately, so I've been watching it, and I immediately noticed the Star Trek theme in the show, even used in the same way; during transition scenes. It's so similar, I did what another poster did and looked up the screen credits to see if Courage had contributed to the music.
Here's to the health of Cardinal Puff.
Courage wrote the theme. Interior episode music was contributed by several composers.
shareIt would be ironic if it were. Glen Larson, creator of "Battlestar Galactica", said in an interview that his vision of the pilots was heavily influenced by "12 O'Clock High".
shareSpeaking of Dominic Fontiere, I have always loved his music. Next to Twelve O'Clock High, his work on The Outer Limits is simply great. Every time I've heard it, it scares the hell out of me. Which, given the show's premises, is a good thing.
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