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Eww..Jack Lemmon IS Quagmire...


He totally grossed me out in this movie...Giggity!

Thoroughly enjoyed Jones and Lynley, but the Hogan character was seriously creepy...

And Paul Lynde married, to a woman...that was pretty damned funny!

Gotta love the sixties,
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waah! It's a movie, and from a different, less "sensitive" time. Get over yourself!

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Actually Bob Hope DID play someone this creepy in one of his best films, "The Great Lover" (1949), in which he plays a Scout leader taking a troop on a cruise. That film's gag is that Hope's attempts to seduce various women are constantly being blocked by the Boy Scouts he's responsible for. It's a little-known movie but reveals a much darker side of Hope than his more famous films.

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There's no doubt in my mind that this is probably the first and last time I'll see Jack Lemmon and Quagmire in the same sentence, although it is a great comparison.

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that's really funny...just watched this last night and i was thinking...hmmm

actually i thought he came off like Larry from Three's Company...but i'm still convinced that Quagmire is modeled after Larry.

Either way this movie is a looot like Three's Company if Mr. Furley was the star instead of Jack. oh god that'd be a horrible show!!!


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who shot who in the what now?

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I think you mean Larry was fashioned from Quagmire. The movie was made in 1963; Three's Company was made in the mid-70's, way after the movie.

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omg, I know!!!! When I was watching this I totally thought the SAME thing!!!
I actually looked around wiki and such to see if Quagmire was actually inspired by the character.

So insane...

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I'm totally lost. Who is Quagmire?

"My date last night was rude and just plain awful...and then he wouldn't even spend the night."

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OMG, Quagmire is a cartoon neighbor of Peter Griffin on "Family Guy," a very popular animated series...he lives to fornicate, and has been known to keep Vietnamese immigrant girls in the trunk of his car...I know that doesn't sound very funny, but believe me, it really is...(if you're sick and twisted like most of that show's audience!!)

Jack Lemmon's role in this movie just reminded me SO much of that character: morally bankrupt, and perpetually horny!

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But...let's look at this in another way...We, the audience, are given a quick look around the other apartments in the Centaur; each one occupied by a lovely, charming, contented woman. And each of them is very happy to see Hogan passing by, smiling and saying good morning. Not the image of a villain, no indeed. And the scene in the barber shop gives his point of view: he's practically a one-man health club. He's a self-sacrificing public servant, occupied all day with keeping his tenants happy (at $75 a month rent).
He even throws himself off the roof, in his efforts to make his new tenant happy!
A Hero!
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Down In Front!

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Hahahahhahha....thanks, that was really funny! A BIG old Giggity shout-out...ohhh, yeahhhh...

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Just shows what a great actor Jack Lemmon was. Very believable in all his roles.

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But...let's look at this in another way...We, the audience, are given a quick look around the other apartments in the Centaur; each one occupied by a lovely, charming, contented woman. And each of them is very happy to see Hogan passing by, smiling and saying good morning. Not the image of a villain, no indeed. And the scene in the barber shop gives his point of view: he's practically a one-man health club. He's a self-sacrificing public servant, occupied all day with keeping his tenants happy (at $75 a month rent).
He even throws himself off the roof, in his efforts to make his new tenant happy!
A Hero!
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Down In Front!


Interesting observation and I feel the same way. I think Hogan's obvious flirting with all his tenants is just innocent - this was 1963. I'm sure if it was remade today (I hope not as none of Jack Lemmon's movies should ever be remade), it would be terrible and overly sleazy. This was still quite an innocent era and we didn't see what he actually got up to in that "department" so people shouldn't take it too seriously that this movie was "sleazy" because we were not shown any scenes of a sexual nature so it was not sleazy at all. And I don't know about anyone else but if I found a beautiful apartment building like that and at 75 a month, I'd be there like a shot.

(In case you're wondering, I'm an 18 year old female lol)

Just shows what a great actor Jack Lemmon was. Very believable in all his roles.


Absolutely, I agree with this too. It just shows how versatile he was and challenged he was to take on different parts all the time. And Hogan was definitely a different part in comparison to the personality of his other characters.

And I have to agree with a further third post I've just read on this thread - that I too think that this is the first and last time I'll ever see Jack Lemmon as Hogan and Quagmire from Family Guy in the same sentence lol. Though I can also see the vague comparison, it wouldn't surprise me if the cartoon makers based parts of Quagmire on Hogan.

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Oh, please, the Swinging Sixties were NOT a more innocent era! Perhaps you recall a certain "lifestyle" magazine mogul by the name of Hugh Hefner and his Playboy Club.... Just because the censors didn't want it shown didn't mean the audience were babes in the woods. Practically all the "sophisticated" adult comedies of the early 60s seem to be about who may or may not be sleeping or about to sleep with whom. They seem positively obsessed with the subject in an unhealthy way that makes some people's flesh crawl to watch them now.

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Thanks for mentioning Hugh Hefner because it occurred to me that Jack Lemmon's character was based on him: similar name (Hogan), socioeconomic status (so rich he doesn't have to worry about money and can pursue women full-time), and clothes (that awesome red dinner jacket he wears everywhere!), and an apartment so meticulously set up with mechanical seduction aids (like Lemmon's residence in "How to Murder Your Wife," which he made the next year) it seems to exemplify the "'Playboy' philosophy."

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This is far and away the sleaziest, most unlikeable character Lemmon ever played onscreen. It was a much better role for Gig Young, who played Hogan on Broadway. If it weren't for scrumptious Carol Lynley, this would be a Total Loss.

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I'm with the others, I never thought I'd see Jack Lemmon and Quagmire in the same sentence, but it's so true! I'm a Lemmon fan, who isn't, but I just couldn't bring myself to like this movie. At all. I guess Hogan's supposed to be a comedic character, but he wasn't funny at all, just creepy. He had "Sex Offender" written all over him. I wouldn't have been at all surprised to find he had a woman chained up in the basement.

And Paul Lynde married, to a woman...that was pretty damned funny!

Hehe, I thought the same thing.

"He's already attracted to her. Time and monotony will do the rest."

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I'm with the others, I never thought I'd see Jack Lemmon and Quagmire in the same sentence, but it's so true!


The likeness is more uncanny everytime I catch a glimpse of Quagmire lol. And I'm a huge Lemmon fan. Surely if you're a fan of someone, you can watch them in anything and not think any different. Not every film they do is outstanding. Well that's what I think. And yes, I have Under the Yum Yum Tree on DVD.


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I think people are taking the movie and perhaps themselves far too seriously. It is a silly comedy. It tries to be a bit titillating, at least as much as was possible at that time and still be a movie accepted by the mainstream. Certainly it is dated but like a lot of movies, it was a product of its time. Movies today are very graphically loaded up with sex offenders and sleaziness. This movie is just silly and according to my parents, it was seen that way in its time. (I did see this in the 60s but I was very young and it went clean over my head)

I don't see Lemmon's character as anything like a sex offender. Can't see where that interpretation comes from at all. He is indulgent, idle, manipulative and hopeless, even pathetic but an offender? Hardly. Furthermore, he is not happy. He even ends up trying to get Irene back because she exhibited qualities that other women he knew had not. Of course he failed. Like many thrill seekers, they think the next one will make them happy but of course it doesn't so the cycle continues.

That brings me to the positive dimension of the movie. It ends celebrating monogamy, faithfulness and respect. We could use some more of that in movies today.


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I think people are taking the movie and perhaps themselves far too seriously. It is a silly comedy. It tries to be a bit titillating, at least as much as was possible at that time and still be a movie accepted by the mainstream. Certainly it is dated but like a lot of movies, it was a product of its time. Movies today are very graphically loaded up with sex offenders and sleaziness. This movie is just silly and according to my parents, it was seen that way in its time. (I did see this in the 60s but I was very young and it went clean over my head)

I don't see Lemmon's character as anything like a sex offender. Can't see where that interpretation comes from at all. He is indulgent, idle, manipulative and hopeless, even pathetic but an offender? Hardly. Furthermore, he is not happy. He even ends up trying to get Irene back because she exhibited qualities that other women he knew had not. Of course he failed. Like many thrill seekers, they think the next one will make them happy but of course it doesn't so the cycle continues.

That brings me to the positive dimension of the movie. It ends celebrating monogamy, faithfulness and respect. We could use some more of that in movies today.


I completely 100% agree with you and this was basically my point that I was trying to put across when I originally answered this topic. 

All Hogan ever did (or try to do in Carol Lynley's character case) is charm the ladies into bed, never forcing himself onto them like a sex offender would do.

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He does some pretty superficial, creepy things (the "unique" keys for each resident, continually letting himself into their apartment), but overall, I actually like his character. At one point, I found myself thinking, "This is the kind of guy who'd have peepholes in all the bathrooms!"

He's a lothario, a man who loves women, and he acts accordingly. As someone else pointed out, the residents (apart from Irene) don't seem to mind his presence at all. He's just a good-natured playboy. Apart from his manic nervousness (and his superb fashion sense), he could be my older brother, who finally married when he was in his 50's, but before that, had a steady stream of multiple, much younger girlfriends, and everyone was happy all around.

What really makes his character, though, is just a hint of desperation in his manner; it's as if he knows he's getting older and it may be that he doesn't have too many years of bedding women in their 20's left. It's a perfect little addition.

Oh, and Edie Adams was the most attractive woman in this. She put those younger "girls" to shame!

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This is truly one of the most moronic movies I've ever seen. Carol Lynley's character has to be a true dumb blonde to not know what Jack Lemmon's character is up to and Dean Jones's character is an idiot for putting up with Lemmon's character's bull shot. And then there's Jack Lemmon's character. "Psychopath" is the word that comes to mind.

Don't waste your time on this movie. I stopped watching well within the first hour.

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DULY NOTED

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