Wasn't anyone else bothered by that song?????
I found it rather shocking, telling girls they must live for their men and there was a part that said somehting like "when he talks you must keep quiet and listen and do what he wants"
I really didn't like that song at all. I know that when this movie was made, women were not as respected as we are now, but still... I can't believe Disney included this song in the movie.
Get a grip- maybe if more women treated their men with respect and made those fragile male egos feel needed there were be fewer men looking for a girlfriend. Also keep in mind that men who are trreated that way are a lot more likely to treat the woman like she is a jewel. You get what you put out sometimes. Women's lib has done little good for this country.
shareYou've got to be joking.
I don't respect men if I don't flirt and dress right and restrain my intelligence and subscribe to every standard of ideal womanhood this society's ever seen?
How about it's got nothing to do with respecting men and more to do with respecting myself?
I'd die before bending over backwards to change everything about myself that was "unacceptable," just to get the attention of a man and then live with my fingers crossed hoping that this way he was "a lot more likely to treat the woman as a jewel."
Thanks, but I think I'll find somebody with more reasonable requirements. Somebody who likes me and not Disney princesses.
There are plenty of them here in the real world where the rest of us live. Women's lib has done that much for me, whatever a person like you has to say about it.
Sarcasm. Good 'ol sarcasm. Tongue in cheek. Doesn't anyone appreciate this stuff anymore? And in the 60's women were gaining ground really quick thats why it was tongue in cheek. Because when the movie was SET women DEF were to act like that in order to get a man.
sharethe whole thing is amusing but its abit of a farce. also there is abit of sibling rivalry.
shareYes, it could be seen as amusing and tounge-in-cheek, but it wasn't meant to be. That's what's so frustrating about it. I found it annoying - funny, but annoying (it even made me start to do those stupid fake boxing jabs you do when you're annoyed - sad, I know...)
sharehow do you know how it was orginally ment to be? did you write the script? it was ment to be tongue in cheek and i can prove it. When Haley is sittiing in front of her mirror getting ready for the party she names off a list of famous women who were strong in will and mind and her mother tells her not to take too long deciding who she was from the list. Through out the entire movie Gillie's sister though soft spoken is also extremely physical even going so far as to beg Gillie to let her wind up the old truck and fix the flat tire. Haley's character through out the movie does as much if not more work on fixing up the little yellow house then Mr Popham. It was the 60 when women's lib was in full swing the reason Disney put out this movie was to show that they were with it and that you could still have fun. Plus in my personal opinion it wouldn't hurt women to act more genteel that doesn't mean when the situation calls for it that you can't change the tire on your car or hang a new light fixture in your house yourself it just means that you don't have to go around and act like a brute to get along in the world.
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Moreover, the cousin, who thinks she is "The Pink of Perfection" gets the first handsome man who comes along, but what do they have in common? Sounds like a marriage - built on first impressions and feminine furbelows - that might soon be empty and dry as dust. Hayley's character is saved from that fate. In the end, she gets the guy who admires her for her gumption and intelligence, and he is the real catch: intelligent, unconventional, handsome, and, well, rich (it IS a Disney movie). I saw this movie as an early teen and it told me to go out there and GO FOR IT, I wanted to be strong and sassy just like Hayley!
shareYou're not supposed to take the meaning of this song literally, I thought it was pretty obvious when they're giving advice like "Hide the real you" that it's blatently awful advice and the whole thing should be taken tongue in cheek. They also give the advice that you should always keep a man waiting whereas in a later scene Julia tells her man that she would NEVER keep him waiting. The song is bad advice and they don't even follow the advice themselves so just take it as an amusing song.
shareIt's "blatAntly" not "blatEntly."
"Don't call me 'honey', mac."
"Don't call me 'mac'... HONEY!"
when the film was made that was the way women were suppose to act in order to 'catch' a husband.
shareDon't women constantly still do what that song makes explicit though? "Maximize your femininity. That's what every girl should know, if she wants to catch a beau." Women and young women today do that just as much as they ever have, both physically (e.g. emphasizing their figures/physical attributes), and in terms of the way they carry themselves when guys are around (flirtation). But yes, it is kind of shocking to have it made so explicit in the song; the truth sometimes hurts to hear. Ah well, it's still a great Disney classic and I love it, despite the un-subtlety of the song.
shareTrue, according to the time period of the film, that was the attitude then. Not that women did not rebel, or men were opposed to it. I just saw the movie, and was a bit taken aback myself. The red haired actress is a better singer than Haley. Although I do enjoy Haley's films. I have to admit, the girls did a great job on the dress. It was hideous before.
sharei think the song was meant to be taken at face value -- consider obsequious songs like "i will follow him" and "its in his kiss" which are submissive to male dominance and place the male at the center of the relationship
sign of the times
try watching "a summer place" and tell me how dated that movie is
My sisters and I always looked at this song as the guide to flirting! lol
Definitely never took it seriously, and it's actually one of my favorite Disney songs.
Bothered? Absolutely not. I thought the song was cute and a wonderful addition to this movie where Nancy and Julia are teaching Lallie Joy the "fine arts" on how to act like a girl to get Gilly's attention vs. being a tomboy.
Bear in mind that this film takes place during the mid-1920's, not to mention that this film came out in 1963. Even back in the early 60's, things were much different than they are today.
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But you don't have to date someone whose style you don't like. There's plenty of room for women whose real selves resemble what you're describing, and plenty of room for the rest. You should be able to get on fine without *everybody* being the sort that appeals to you.
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that's how girls were treated in those days. that's how they thought they should act.
so if you know all that, then you should know that disney wouldn't have gotten any grief from anyone, therefor they allowed it. that's what they thought, that's what everyone thought. there really was no one who would bother them about it.
plus.. they are just teenage girls.. of course they are going to have the wrong idea of how to attract a boy.
orders,warnings,lunatic demands are regular occurances
A double period (NOT referring to the forbidden teenage girl one) piece..from 1963 about the 1900s, or 1920s,1910as.
Frankly,pun,why don't you complain about the Rat Pack/Sinatra WB flicks from that time. Oh, right. Great Americans Standards, they're cool,, so, different rules.
Off topic a bit,. the song is hilarious. Wendy Turner is the ONLY one I'm not familiar with,unlike Hayley or Deborah W. VER fun song