The head Nun.


Was anybody else hoping Sidney Poitier would take her out back, snap her neck, and bury her behind the chapel? I couldn't stand her.

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So I was the only person thrown into a fit of murderous rage while watching the movie?

Life. Loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it. - Marvin

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SO, it's been like 4-5 months since I watched the movie. My rage has not decreased in that time period whatsoever. On the contrary, it has actually fermented during this time and I am now a patient of the Cedars-Sinai Department of psychiatry.

Life. Loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it. - Marvin

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Note-card. Great point.

But, she was still an ungrateful b!tch...

The brave may not live forever, but the cautious do not live at all.

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"She's not a bad person. Not at all."

Yes, she is, somewhat, and her toxicity casts a shadow throughout this otherwise beautiful film. The writers should have had her relent a little at the end, regardless of what the novel might say.

To see Homer as a mere tool is equivalent to seeing him as a slave. Old Mother is not racist, but she is blinded by a faith that tells her that Homer is a mere unwitting instrument of God: Homer is God's tool, temporarily on loan to Old Mother. Ain't that sweet?

The last meeting presented a great opportunity for Old Mother to humanize Homer, to really say, "Thank you." Instead, poor Homer has to trick the words out of her.

This is a nasty rip in the film's narrative fabric, and I wish it had been repaired before theatrical release.

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Mother Maria is a very strong woman. Keep in mind that, although it is not mentioned in the film, she and her sisters lived through World War II and the deprivations afterwards. They lived through the coming of communisim, kept their faith through the totalitinarism of communism, and managed to escape from behind the Iron Curtain. She leads her small flock to the American Southwest where she attempts to build a convent and mission. This takes a woman of extraordinary strength and will.

Mother Maria sees Homer as being sent by God to help them accomplish their goal. While Homer may truly have been sent by God, it is also true that Mother Maria bullies and guilt-trips him into doing what she wants. And Homer, in spite of the pressure, truly wants to help these women.

But have you thought that, in thanking Homer, Mother Maria would have to admit -- at least in her mind -- to bullying Homer, and her pride would not let her do this. Her strength against the war, against communism, against poverty is part of her; it is what has sustained her through all the hardships they faced. To thank Homer would break a hole in her pride, and she had a problem showing herself so vulnerable. This was Mother Maria's fault = her pride.

Homer came to realize her character. When he tricked her into saying, "Thank you," he was able to hear what he wanted to hear, and, at the same time, allow Mother Maria to keep her pride. Yes, pride is a sin, but, after all that she went through, is giving her a little leeway, as Homer did, wrong? Homer was able to make her crack and show gratitude towards him, but at the same time, keep her strength. And Homer was able to hear a "thank you," that acknowledged his work and yet kept him an equal of Mother Maria. She owed him for building the chapel and he owed her for letting him keep his indepencence.

Just some thoughts --

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I hated her and I think she did have some prejudices inside of her.

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The writer was demonstrating that some good-hearted people are not necessarily sweet demur personalities. The Mother Superior was persevering without money or other resources to do some good for the world. So she was bossy and demanding, but those are the people who get things done.

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You weren't supposed to like her. Until the very last moment, when she sensed that Homer was leaving for good, and then a great sadness and sense of loss came over her. Brilliant.

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Why did she appear to be so angry the night Homer first brought in the lollipops and extra groceries? I realize the religious life is all about self-sacrifice, but does it mean you are to NEVER indulge yourself in some dessert or a few slices of ham?
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I don't think it was anger, per se: I think she was unexpectedly touched by Homer's generosity, also overcome; and at the same time ashamed both of this reaction and of the perceived need in Homer to spend his money on food for her "dependents". The manifestation of this complex reaction comes out through the only mask that seems to have served her for many years against her perceived self-weakness: as anger. But it isn't really.

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