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Something that has always bugged me


Probably a daft question, but was Hylas meant to be gay? He seemed rather taken with Hercules, especially in the first scene that he appears in. He has a peice of straw in his mouth, as soon as he spots Hercules he says "Ah Hercules, yes!" Or something like that. That scene has always intrigued me.

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Never thought about that before. Could be. Hylas was an intellectual and Hercules was mostly all-brawn. Now I'm a straight man and always thought Steve Reeves was so cool as Hercules but I never realized that he was so idolized by gay men. Makes perfect sense to me now. I think however, straight men are always fascinated by powerful men. Many a straight man fiercely admire professional athletes and I think most of that "hero-worship" is non-sexual. They just wish they could be out there making the touchdowns themselves.

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Thank you for a well thought out explanation of that scene.

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Wasn't Hylas one Herc's illegitimate children?



Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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Possibly but perhaps only as an adopted son: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hylas.html

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It could also be that they were legitimately just close friends. During the time the movie was set, it was probably a little more acceptable for two men to have that style of affection for each other even if they weren't gay.

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"During the time the movie was set, it was probably a little more acceptable for two men to have that style of affection for each other even if they weren't gay."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromance#Film

Plenty of bromances out there these days but they tend to only be in comedies.


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Sure, but given the time period that this movie was set, nobody would have bat an eyelid about two guys being close. I mean, even during the nineteenth century after photography was invented, there were quite a few pictures of guys being a lot more physically affectionate with each other than we'd generally consider acceptable today.

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Yes, but wouldn't you like a nickel for every time over the centuries that old chestnut excuse "I must've blacked out from too much (wine, whiskey, mead, absinthe, booze, beer), 'cause I don't remember a thing," was used...?!

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"Come, Theseus, we've been wrestling all day. Let's relax a bit with some wine, then oil up and wrestle some more."

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Not really. I've never been close enough to anyone for that to be the case.

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I've seen this movie hundreds of times since I've made multiple movie dvds that I sleep to... playing while I sleep... movies that I love and not meaning boring. Jason & Argonauts starts out my "sleep" dvd then goes into the Mouse That Roared, 7 Faces Of Dr Lao, then Casino Royale.... all movies from the 1960's. Anyways, I never thought the Hylas/Hercules bond was anything gay... just a brains/muscules thing.... Hercules was just so surprised at being bested at something that they formed a bond and became friends. Nothing gay about that. I doubt the movie meant to imply anything sexual. And being a friend of Hylas, Hercules stayed till he could find the body.

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I would like to add that Hercules probably felt guilty for Hylas' death since he didn't listen when Hylas asked Hercules to leave the javelin(broach pin).

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Even as a kid, I think, I always assumed Hercules and Hylas were a couple. (It's a Greek story, after all!) The two fitted the characteristics and types of at least two gay couples I knew in real life, so it seemed pretty natural to me.



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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The real Hercules in the myths was a homosexual who had a young male lover ... it may have been Hylas, but can't remember my Greek mythology all that well.

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Hylas was an illegitimate son.




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Ah, okay. It wasn't Hylas then.

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