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So, Theo digs chicks, right?


Seems like she has a kind of attraction to Nell, and she lives with someone else, but didn't specify if it was a man or a woman.

So she digs chicks, right?

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Yes. Nell calls her a 'freak of nature'. It's a little more evident in the book.

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Yes. Nell calls her a 'freak of nature'.


When Nell called her that, I thought it was a reference to Theo's psychic powers.

But thanks for confirming my suspicion. My wife and I watched this last night, and she thought I was a just another dirty old man with girl-on-girl sex fantasies.

Now I can tell her that even though I am indeed a dirty old man, the lesbian thing with Theo was not my imagination.

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In the novel, there are some indications that Eleanor is interested in Theo too, although she has trouble admitting that even to herself. You could argue that it's just a need for friendship, or it could be something more.

This commentator on the '63 version is quite sure of Eleanor's orientation:

http://www.lgbt.co.uk/cinema/362-the-haunting-1963

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That was a good write up but I have my doubts that Eleanor has matured enough to know her own mind. She is a nothing. In the book it is the decision she cannot make between Luke and Theo. That inability to decide is what destroys her. The film switched the triangle to Markway, Theo and Eleanor but the problem still remains.

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Well, it's not quite that she can't make up her mind. In the book she rejects Luke but he doesn't seem to care that much. Then Theo rejects Eleanor. There's a scene where Eleanor asks to move in with the other woman, and Theo turns down the idea of any extensive post-Hill House relationship. (Although, only about six days have passed since they met.)

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No, Eleanor pursues Luke. Which makes Theo jealous.

There is a whole motif in the book that has Theo associated with the color green. After Nell's disappointment with Luke, Theo swoops in to flirt with him. This hurts Eleanor immensely and adds to her mental distress. By the time she asks to move in with Theo, she has already lost her mind.

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An angry Nell called her "one of nature's mistakes" in a pointed way that didn't seen to be referring to Theo's psychic abilities.

I never "got" the implication that Theo was a lesbian until I saw the film as an adult. I was 9 or 10 when I first saw it.



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Dear flapdoodle64:

I have read the book twice and I have viewed this film many times, plus all of the production back story.

Theo is NOT a Lesbian.

She can be cold and cruel, but that is about it. She takes her psychic skills very seriously and will not tolerate a fool.

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molar, yet in the DVD commentary there's Director Wise and the actress herself Claire Bloom talking about the lesbian Theo character. Bloom says she was intrigued to be playing a woman who is attracted to other women.

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Well, then they either lied in the data I was given, or it was omitted.

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Based on my reading of the book, she might be bisexual (not in the movie, however). Shirley Jackson leaves a lot open to interpretation.

She's bisexual in the 1999 film, but that point is mostly undeveloped after the first scene.

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I've always picked up Theo's attraction to Nell in the movie. But I never assume I'm seeing more than one element of someone's sexuality - she could be attracted to Nell and a heterosexual guy on the outside and an intersex friend on alternate weekends.

So she may be lesbian, bisexual, or pansexual. Seeing her attraction to just one person wouldn't clarify that.

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Four clues made this clear for me:

1. Theo's delight at the prospect of sharing a room with Eleanor.

2. Theo's stern rebuff of Luke touching her.

3. Theo's vague reference to her "roommate".

4. Eleanor's comment about her being a freak of nature.

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She's gay, Jim. (-:

There's another hint as well- watch the scene where she and Eleanor are in their room, talking and drinking wine while sitting on a bed- Theo starts leaning over towards her looking for all the world like she's going to make a move on her when a haunting abruptly begins. The timing is interesting..... did Eleanor sense that Theo was coming on to her and cause the "haunting" (banging noise) or did the house?

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Yes, I thought so. This film would have been more interesting to me if it had explored its sexual issues further.

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In the film Theo is certainly a lesbian. Years since I read the book, so I can't remember what she is or isn't there.

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Theo has her own thread: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057129/board/nest/22874611?d=22874611#228 74611



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oh the lesbian undertones are definetly there. even when they are talking at dinner and they ask theo what scares her and she responds "knowing what I really want". BING! and when ealnor, who I'm sure realized at some point that theo had homosexual tendencies, says shes one of "natures mistakes", and that look she gives her, its pretty obvious. but if your just watching it for the first time, the references are quite subtle, not everyone would be probably pick up on this stuff.

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There is NO lesbianism in this movie, nor even a hint of it. I think it's simply the early 21st-century mindset that wants to see homosexuality everywhere. Believe it or not, two men or two women can be friends, one more assertive than the other, without sexuality being involved.

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