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Hilts (McQueen) should have been one of the first caught.


The escape seems to start late at night or in the early morning. After the escape is boched, it shows all successful escapee's out in the eary morning each trying to find the best way to escape. McQueen is seen stealing the motorcycle in the early morning as well. He is eventually figured out and soon chased after by the German military. He is concerned that the fule he currrently has may only just be enough to get him to Switzerland. Hilt's chase is shown to take place throughout mid-day. However, once Cavandish is caught (The truck is intercepted) a cross fade seems to indicate some time has gone past as a number of other escapee's are shown to have been captured. The next scene shows Hendly and Blyth stealing a plane in the early morning, this would indicate that over 24 hours has passed since the escape took place (Which fits the timeline with the story) Hilts however is never shown to be escaping during any other time out side of mid-day. Though it is possible to assume he was being chased all through the night, it is more than likely that McQueen's character was originally to be caught early on on the first day of escape, as if Hilts did in fact have low fuel as he was worried he had, it seems unlikely he would have been riding all through the night. It could be argued that he hid somewhere in the middle of the night and continued to escape on the motorcycle the next day, however he still seems to be being chased the next time we see him as if he has not stoped being chased. It appears that due to the excitment of the scene, the director and or producers stretched out McQueen's escape as much as they, though it seems to prove a problem in continuity.

Another point of continuity seems to show that after the Motorbike crashes, bullet holes are seen on the very top of the motorbike fule take as it shows fule leak out onto the ground and onto Hilts's leg . Given the position of the holes, it appears that the motorbike (Dispite what Hilts was worried about) had more than enough fule to complete its journey across the boarder.

Given this information, do you believe it was possible that Hilts did in fact stop and hid for the night and found more fuel for the bike and decided to continue using it as his form of escape the next morning, despite the fact that he was now marked for capture on the bike and proved foolish to continue riding it in that area? Or is this just an editing floor in the story used to keep the story more exciting?

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Who cares

That was about the most preposterous combination of drivel I have ever read

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Yeah, but you are still an a$$hole!

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Best part of you ran down the crack of your mothers azz

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The film is quite vague about the timeline of Hilts' progress following the breakout. But one thing is certain; Hilts doesn't hijack the motorcycle the morning after the escape. Stalag Luft III was located in what is now present-day Poland, and travel logistics combined with geographic realities would have meant he needed the cooperation of Nazi VIPs to get to southern Germany (near the Swiss border, no less) in such a short span of time. Filmgoers may see Hilts hijacking a motorcycle, but no specifics are provided regarding how he got to southern Germany or how long it took; we can only assume it required at least a couple of days.

And he certainly didn't hijack the motorcycle anyplace near the POW camp; traveling such a long distance would have required refueling his bike and getting through checkpoints, and his German wasn't good enough to get him through these situations.

We have to remember Steve McQueen only agreed to make the movie when filmmakers assured him they'd find a way to work an escape-by-motorcycle into the plot for his character; McQueen essentially wanted to show off bike-riding skills (which were considerable). However, that meant constructing a scenario that served the purposes of cinematic storytelling but had little to do with reality. So don't expect the motorcycle portion of THE GREAT ESCAPE to bear close scrutiny, script-wise; it was put there to give 1963 audiences the proverbial "bang for their buck." And it succeeded.

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That was a great answer, I never thought of it like that because I was an unawear of German logistics. So, in order to get where he was when he picked up the bike, he needed no less than a day to get where we see him aquire it (Or more) I can assume he perhaps got there by train much like James Cobourn's character did, but instead for spain Hilts headed for Switzerland. So by this logic, his escape is shown on the day Hendly's plane stealing took place (At least closer to that day).

Thanks for the insight and in actually contributing to this post, unlike others who just want to be pricks and contribute to all that is wrong with the internet of today.

Cheers.

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Getting from what is now western Poland to the Swiss border would have been a miracle in itself. The German town they are filming in is clearly somewhere in Bavaria, not the then German Silesia where the camp was located

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