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What do you think of a re-make?


This is a huge, loaded question I know. First, let me state that I am a huge fan of this film. I was born in the early 1950's and this film helped introduce me to WWII. Second, my dad was a WWII vet and he told me and my brothers lots of his experiences during WWII (unlike many vets who were so traumatized that they couldn't speak of it....and I feel for them). These stories are burned into my brain. So I have tremendous respect for veterans.

I wonder.....what might a re-make look like 50 years on? I can imagine a grittier and more realistic rendition. Perhaps more authentic to the real story? And a bit less Hollywood (no criticism here......have to respect the era and conditions under which the the original was made).

I guess I'm wondering, with all of the great films that have been made in the last 50 years on this conflict, if a new rendition would be of value to a new generation. Please, no flaming or trolling on this one. This question is directed at film buffs. I know that many re-makes are simply awful. Still, I can't help but think that a wonderful re-make could be made. Lot's of talented directors and actors that could tell this story again.

OK, fire away!

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You're an IDIOT. You don't remake classics, you remake bad and mediocre films that you can make better

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Well, filmmakers could always retell the story & stick closer to the facts. I'm not talking about the construction of the tunnels themselves, which was fairly accurate; I'm referring to the time of year the escape took place - late March, when winter was still being felt. By doing this, they could draw attention to one of the biggest obstacles the POWs faced: Snow and frigid temperatures. Veterans of the escape always said their chances of success were severely limited by the weather.

In fact, the successful escape of Dutch POW Bram van der Stok might make an interesting film on its own; his remarkable progress (over the course of three months) took him through Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain and finally to British territory at Gibraltar. That could give filmmakers a wide variety of settings and characters to work with.

But of course, it wouldn't be THE GREAT ESCAPE anymore - not as we know it, anyway. And whatever flaws and dramatic inventions the original contained, it also had a genuine sense of adventure and inventiveness that struck a chord with audiences. Also, changing the time of year from the summer to winter would inevitably alter the mood of the film.

A remake could certainly be done, but remakes are a tricky proposition - as the makers of the new MAGNIFICENT SEVEN recently discovered. Sometimes audiences prefer the version they're familiar with, no matter how imperfect or problematic it may be.

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Murph24.....I appreciate your perspective. I too love the original and (as mentioned in my original post) many times, remakes can be a disaster (The Jackal vs. Day of the Jackal, or the remake of Flight of the Phoenix vs. the original). Once in awhile, remakes can match the original in terms of great story-telling, even though they can be very different in other aspects (say, both versions of True Grit....in my opinion; or several remakes of Last of the Mohicans).
I was just considering how this great story could be reimagined for a new generation......not to take anything away from the original. There are many great screen-writers, director and actors today who might bring a different vision (and I know this can be dicey!). It might even inspire a new generation to see the original. Heck, even Hitchcock remade one of his own films (The Man Who Knew Too Much)! Anyway, I very much appreciate your thoughtful, well-reasoned and non-flame response to my post!

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Well I was born in the mid 1970's and this is one of my favorite movies of all time. I would hate to see a remake of this film just for the sake of remaking it. However since it is based on actual events, it wouldn't be an absolutely terrible idea to re-tell the story. There is the disclaimer at the beginning of the film that the characters are composites and the time frames have been condensed, so a more faithful version could stand alone as it's own work. This would naturally stretch the film out beyond original films almost 3 hour run time which is way beyond what is acceptable for today's studios. The only way this could work would be as a mini-series, similar to how they did the new Spartacus series. The Spartacus TV show was based on the same story as the classic Kirk Douglas film but was wildly different in tone and how it approached the material. Nobody could look at the two versions and claim that one was a soulless cash grab remake of the other. Both are the same story but each stands on it's own as a unique work. I think this would be the best way to approach a remake of The Great Escape.

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steve-dog-thirteen,
Well, I was born in the mid-50's and this film is also one of my favorite movies. I completely appreciate your careful and well-reasoned response to my original post. As I originally said, the majority of re-makes are terrible.....just attempts to make some money!

I think your idea of a mini-series is a very good one. There have been many excellent cable, mini-series, in the past few years and I can see this approach to this story as a credible way to do this. I also agree with your analogy to Spartacus (the Kirk Douglas film and the cable series).....same story, yet each its own unique work. This approach it is what I was thinking of. Thank you for suggesting this analogy!

Thank you for your response! This is the kind of thoughtful response / dialog that I was hoping for. The original film is a classic....I love it and would not want to detract from it in any way. But, a new re-telling of this wonderful story could bring a new perspective and inform a new generation. Your response is greatly appreciated!

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A new generation can just watch the original film. It's even in color, so they wouldn't have to suffer through scary black-and-white!

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Tarantino remake with Leo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, Clooney, Damon and an all-star cast.

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Don't. I know this wasn't entirely accurate but it should have won Best Picture.

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Only way the original could be improved on is Coburn's atrocious accent.

A remake is bound to be inferior but if they wanted to do one they should do something different with it, like give it a grittier tone. The original is a rather romanticised look at the lives of the men in a German prison camp and was of its time, yet it had charm. No point for a remake to go down that same route.

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I think there is a lot that could be done with a remake on the order or educating the audience and telling the truth about the story ... but if they did a remake I'm about 99% positive that it would be terrible.

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This may well be a case of "When legend becomes fact, print the legend." A documentary-style film adhering to the somewhat bleaker facts of the story might well be worth seeing, if done well; but the original stands on its own as a rousing, gripping movie that deserves to be called a classic. A really good documentary would be fine ... but it's the legend that I want to see over & over again.

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The legend is what I saw when I saw this movie for the first time on TV. It was immediately one of my favorites. It was the legend of the the US, even though most of it was Brits who had been in the war for far longer, and the Russians who were really the ones that bore the brunt of the Nazi attacks, and of course the Jews and other minorities that were senselessly exterminated. It was a light-hearted romp through WWII. It was a beautiful movie ... for a kid my age at the time, before I realize that movies could totally ignore reality.

I don't think something needs to be a documentary to tell a more broad and full story, and I also think that one of the problems is that some of us do not think America is great any more because they what they took to be reality, the legend you point out, was never the truth. I hope at some point our TV and Movies start to be more responsible ... not to mention our News Services.

By the way there are articles about the reality of The Great Escape.

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I'm all in favor! Let's make a remake. But a woke one of course. So all the prisoners are black lesbian women, most of them identifying as a transgender. And the Germans should be privileged white men.

It will be a box office monster hit!

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I'd say no. There are lots of other escape stories in lots from other wars (not just World War II) that people are less familiar with which could potentially make for good movies. This story was perfectly well told. Why remake it? Why not make something with a similar theme that we haven't' seen before?

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