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Anyone seen both UK and US release versions?


Most sources claim the 128 min. Royal Command Performance version, as well as the subsequently cut-for-general-release 118 min. version are superior to the 88 min. US release Paramount version.

But director Joe Dante claims the 88 min. version is one of the rare instances in which studio meddling, including the Les Baxter re-scoring, actually improved the picture.

Dante suggests that what MacKendrick wanted to capture on film (the darker story of a troubled kid as opposed to Balcon's desire for a brighter, more Disneyfied approach) doesn't matter - that approach was pretty well destroyed by all the British cuts prior to release. What matters is what Paramount did to the leavings of Seven Arts and the British censors, which was to tighten up what was left and make it flow more smoothly. He says the new score by Baxter considerably assists this effort.

I only saw the 88 min. version as an 11 yr-old in 1965 so, although my memory of that version is warm and nostalgic, I cannot speak to its quality. Obviously, enough was retained to make an impact that is memorable 48 years later.

Can anyone on this forum respond to Dante's opinion (see YouTube link below)? And, can anyone speak to whether or not the US Region 1 DVD offered by this retailer for $27.95 (see second link) is the 88 min or 118 min version? The site says "complete, uncut" but the film is marketed under its US release title - the uncut version of THAT movie would be 88 min, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvBiWBhUloo

http://santaflix.com/boytenfetasg.html

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Joe Dante is entitled to his opinion, but I have both versions and I can honestly say that the American distributors, Paramount, totally ruined the film by cutting 40 minutes out of it...that's two whole reels or a third of the picture...severely affecting the narrative in the process, just so that it would fit on a double bill. Most of Sammy's journey down the White Nile and his scenes with the African chieftain went, as did most of Sammy's interactions with Cocky Wainwright and the river crossing on the ferry. Subsequently, the scene where Sammy tells Cocky about the raid that killed his parents and about him being an orphan...vital to the narrative...were removed, giving the impression to American audiences that Cocky never asks Sammy why he's walking from Port Said to Durban. On the plus side, Les Baxter's score is lush and romantic and suits the film.

I ran the film when it was new in 1963 when I was a cinema projectionist and the version I ran was the 128 minutes version. Sometime between 1963 and the film's first showing on television in 1970, someone cut nine or ten minutes out of it and this is the version that has survived. Originally, the scenes between Sammy and the Syrian were longer, including a scene where Sammy collapses from heat exhaustion in the desert and the Syrian revives him and puts an Arab head dress on him to prevent him getting sunstroke.

The film originally came in at over three and a quarter hours...longer than Spartacus...but Executive Producer Michael Balcon had it cut down to a more managable two hours and nine minutes (about a minute was cut out of this by the BBFC where the Syrian was clearly shown lusting after Sammy) and then the film, which had some disturbing scenes in it, was inexplicably passed with a "U" certificate. Today, it carries a PG rating, the modern equivalent of the "A" certificate it should have received in 1963.

The then head censor John Trevelyan said he also had a problem with the opening air raid scenes in “Sammy Going South” where the parents of young Sammy (Fergus McClelland) are killed. He thought these scenes were violent and upsetting and could distress a young person, but he balanced it with the rest of the film saying it was rather beautiful and compensated for it and so left them uncut. Some time later, he received a phone call from an irate mother in Edinburgh who complained that she had taken her young son to see the film and he was very distressed by the air raid scenes and the death of Sammy’s parents and as a result she had taken him out of the cinema.

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Thanks so much for your reply, David. You have made me want to buy the longer version now, if I can get a guarantee from the vendor that it IS the near-2 hour version. Since I am something of an archivist (at least an archival-minded person), I'd like to also obtain a clean wide-screen copy of the Paramount version I remember from its U.S. release. At least for purposes of comparison.

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I have a pan and scan DVD-R of the American 88 minute cut, although I'm not sure now whether or not it actually says Warner-Seven Arts on the beginning rather than Paramount, as I haven't played it for a while. The longer Region 2 PAL DVD (115 minutes at PAL running speed, which equates to 120 minutes at cinema running speed) is a CinemaScope 2.35:1 transfer that is anamorphically enhanced and is available from both amazon US and amazon UK as "Sammy Going South", with music by Tristram Cary.

Oddly, although heavily cut, the US version does contain a line of dialogue that for some reason is blanked out of the UK DVD soundtrack. That's where Sammy, on telling the Syrian about him going to Durban, then says: "There's nowhere else to go. My mummy and daddy are dead!" This is a vital line of dialogue that informs the Syrian that Sammy is an orphan. The line can be heard plainly in the American version, but cannot be heard in the British version, although the images where he's saying it are still there. I put this down to a glitch on the DVD transfer, as it would have been there in the original film.

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