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One the the best movies ever made.



This movie is really great, i dont know why some people say tha is not good enoght, i just like to say tha this movie is like the seventh seal of the soviet union.

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I don't quite understand that comparison, not at all...

Nevertheless, this film is great. There are moments when we can see where Tarkovsky would go stylisticly but for the most part this film has its own style. We can see here that he is already a master, in command of the mood of the film, the look, and the actors. From here he would go on to make the very ambitious "Andrei Rublev", in which he began to define the style that he would mark the rest of his career.

I've just watched it, so I'll need to let it sink in a little, but I do think it is one of the great films I have seen.

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Thanks for your comment, about the comparison, its because i think that The Seventh Seal is one of the best movies of Swedish, so is the same with Ivanovo Detstvo in the Soviet Union.

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The Seventh Seal is a very good film, and while it is true that Bergman is pretty much the first and last word on Swedish film, I wouldn't say the same for Tarkovsky and Russia. Russia has one of the richest silent film traditions of any country, and it has produced several major directors who made masterpieces in the sound era, such as Eisenstein, Bondarchuk, Bodrov, and Tarkovsky.

Tarkovsky never made a weak film. I own all of his feature films, and each one is unique and powerful.

Bergman made many classic films, he was prolific as a write and director, and I've seen probably 10 or 15 of his movies. My personal favorite Bergman films include
Fanny and Alexander, Scenes from a Marriage, Though a glass Darkly, Winter Light, and the Seventh Seal.

There are many that I have not seen yet like "Smiles of a Summer Night" and "The Virgin Spring", both of which are available from Criterion.

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"The Seventh Seal is a very good film, and while it is true that Bergman is pretty much the first and last word on Swedish film, I wouldn't say the same for Tarkovsky and Russia. Russia has one of the richest silent film traditions of any country, and it has produced several major directors who made masterpieces in the sound era, such as Eisenstein, Bondarchuk, Bodrov, and Tarkovsky."

Sweden had great directors too during the silent era : Victor Sjöström and Mauritz Stiller. But you're right, the great Swedish director is Bergman.

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This is one of the most incredible films I've ever seen. Certainly the best war film, in my opinion. I saw a 16mm print of it in one of my classes, and I was absolutely amazed. Also, Bergman has said that he thinks of Tarkovsky as one of the greatest filmmakers... but then again, who wouldn't?

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I personally love Ivan's Childhood better than The seventh seal. The former aroused me from my sleep while the later made me asleep. But both are great films anyway, incredibly great!

Tarkovsky is a god...

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I think with Ivan's Childhood you can really use the term underrated. I mean when people think of Tarkovsky they generally think of Solyaris, Stalker and Andrei Rublev as oppose to The Mirror, The Sacrifice or Ivan's Childhood. I guess he so great that his lesser films often don't get much attention depite being very good in their own right.

Last film seen: Ivan's Childhood 9/10

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Really a masterpiece.

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I haven't heard people say it's not good enough, is that true? Not good enough for them perhaps. I've seen this film twice, once at the cinema, and it remains one of the most astounding and heart-wrenching films I have ever seen. In my opinion Tarkovksy was consistently good, but it's amazing he created this so early in his career.


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I loved it,the last dream when Ivan and his sister are running along the beach was quite heartfelt and very poignant.

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I agree with all abovementioned opinions on the film. There was interesting when Ivan never said a word about his family, and even when the old man asks him "Is your mother alive" he just simply adds: "yes, they killed my wife as well", but you can not see Ivan's face, his negative answer. this made this scene more powerful and affective. Then where is the right side of the "house" where the old man lived?

Another thing that I noticed in the films of Tarkovskiy is the usage of the iamges from world art. In this case it was Apokalipsis from Durer ( I hope I am not mistaken) as the bright example of distruction, of the war face.

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Both European (obviously), both black and white starkly, no grays. No action to speak of; all plot, character and development. Both stir your soul. I believe the directors were both depressives and conceived the movies on a bad day. They are both landmarks in great films.

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I have seen this film several times and am always facinated by it. Some one once said that the greatness of this film is revealed in the second and third viewing. I believe that is so. Another film that I enjoyed along these lines was Grigori Chukhrai's "The Forty First".

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I completely agree.
I've never seen a movie so realistic and true.

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it's a truly great film. the kid is amazing as is the cinematography. i still prefer tarkovsky's "the mirror" but this is maybe the best film feature film of all time.

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Yes, I agree. Ivan's Childhood really is one of the best films to date.





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