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Pilot: stupid, stupid


Spoiler, sorta, not really, everything was obvious from the get-go...

Pulse, movie, pulse! Only dead people don't have it.
This villain, he's supposed to be smart: he even touches her wrist (!), yet he won't check for the pulse!

Also, how'd our genius hero get wind of this villain's setup? Explain, pilot?!

This pretty much ruins any interest in this series for me. Thankfully, there's several hundreds that I seem to like.

Any responses r welcome

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Just started the series myself, and for the first time ever.
I must say the Pilot is not one of the better ones for a start to any series, it lacked any many areas, however, i still found something to enjoy about it, Rooger Moore alone adds so much to the screen with his charisma.
I went through 4 episodes so far, all of them are better than the pilot, so the series does pick up as it moves on.

What puzzles me is, Simon Templar is quite a mystery, I really can't tell what is his role and what is his target, he just seems to help people randomly and seems to have a reputation for some reason ?

It says in the plot description that he is supposed to be a thief, however, I have not seen him doing any criminal acts so far, he seems more like a really good guy ? can someone explain ?

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THE SAINT series picks up Simon Templar later on in his career. If you want more of the kind of person Templar really was, then read the early novels. That was what Leslie Charteris conceived The Saint to truly be. The TV series cleaned up the character somewhat, much to the dislike of Charteris. In the series, Templar is shown to be a reformed thief who uses his skills to help others. The one thing that the series DID bring over from the books was Templar's knack for finding adventure and to sometimes take the law into his own hands. But the books showed Templar to be much more ruthless and even killed those who deserved it in his opinion.

The series, however, attempted, to more or less success,show Templar as a man who has somehow seen the error of SOME of his ways and just traveled the world finding adventure and righting any wrongs he felt needed it. And he always seemed to have rather unlimited finances from his mysterious past.

As the series progressed, you see Templar show his criminal skills in various degrees and that every police officer in just about every country knows who he is and they all wanted the glory of (finally) putting The Saint behind bars. His reputation precedes him wherever he goes as a man of rather dubious morals.

There has also been a new series long in development (Sir Roger and his son are producers) which, hopefully, will give a more accurate concept of The Saint.

As to the pilot, well, that's just the English way,especially in the sixties and the series never presented a "origin" story simply because Charteris never actually wrote one. If you read the early books, Charteris makes a few references that how The Saint got his nickname and how he became what he did would someday be told, but, alas,he never did. His past was always a mystery. However, the pilot, such as it is, WAS a Charteris tale.

But, nonetheless, do not discount the Moore series.It IS good with some really exciting episodes many adapted from Charteris' later work before he retired and deferred much of the writing to ghost writers. But, again, don't let that dissuade you from enjoying this great series. It is a excellent companion to the novels.



"Be as wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove"

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Thank you Nickkitt for your brief summary and information provided about the Saint, it did make things clearer for me.

this Obscurity in the Saint's origins did not dicourage me from continuing to watch this very good TV series. I am certainly enjoying it.

I have reached episode 6 now, and it is one of my favorite episodes so far, and here the Saint finally committed a criminal act of sorts, however, he did it for the benefit of a person in need of it !!

Wonderful series !

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