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Wasn't Elisabeth a ghost? I'm confused... (spoilers, obviously)


The movie seems to have two version combined in one - one with her being a ghost, and one with her being alive and well. How does one reconcile the confusion? I mean, first we see her as a corpse in a suspended state of shock, then taking on flesh (and blood) and rising from the coffin, and then as Dr. Leon's lover. And if she's alive, who was the corpse buried in the coffin? One of Dr. Leon's former patients?

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The whole thing was a scheme by Elizabeth and her lover (the not-so-good doctor) to drive her hubby insane. The dead corpse was placed in the coffin by the doctor to make him think she was buried alive, then when they knew he was on the brink of insanity she waited in the coffin to "rise from the dead" and push him over the edge. To say that things didn't turn out as plotted is putting it mildly.

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I just saw it and was confused as well.

Wasn't Price's character the KID that witnessed the murder of his mother (Barbara Steele) by his dad that looked just like him? In the credit's the kid is credited as "young Nicolas". Maybe I didn't pay enough attention to the movie, but any enlightment would certainly help!

EDIT: NEVER MIND, the woman that played Isabella looked alot like Barbara Steele on a small 7" screen...got the character's criss crossed...never mind!

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I would suspect that the corpse in the coffin was that of his (Nicholas's) mother which was placed there by the doctor to make him crack.

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Actually, I think the good doctor would have used a convenient corpse, he is a doctor after all, and make it appear as if it died in a state of interment; the corpse of isabella would have been much too decomposed.

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Let me also add: Corman also had Price play yet *another* character in a horror movie in which his wife fakes her own death, places a corpse in her coffin, and then later appears to him to freak him out; it's "The Raven".

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Um it was another body. How do you have a problem understanding that?

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Not the best of the series but hugely enjoyable IMO, however the whole thing is really a remake/rip-off of Les diaboliques with a bit of Poe stuck on the end. The plot may be clearer if you've seen that film....

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Ummmm...not at all. It's not like Les diaboliques at all. A spouse fakes death. That ends the similarity.

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It constantly amazes me that people don't get that it was a DUMMY in the coffin. They were trying to drive Nicholas insane and were subtly pushing him to have Elizabeth's "body" exhumed. So they planted a dummy in the coffin. I saw this when I was 10 and figured it out back then!

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Yes, whether or not it was a dummy or some poor soul's stolen dead body, they were playing upon Nicholas's childhood trauma but didn't count on getting their just desserts when he really does go insane and recreates his father's madness.

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PEOPLE aren't we forgetting something? HMMM?


It was a sealed wall, a SEALED wall how did the doc get in there to plant the body in the first place?


One other question what did she (Liz) have against Nick? Maybe it was an arranged marriage?
The doc wasn't all that hot.
Not only that but what a terrible thing to do to ur own brother, maybe those
two have/had some issues between them and didn't she think bro just might show up?

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PEOPLE aren't we forgetting something? HMMM?


It was a sealed wall, a SEALED wall how did the doc get in there to plant the body in the first place?


What you are forgetting is that it was all a plan from the start. Elizabeth obviously had eyes on the money and property, as did the good doctor. Everything was faked, from Elizabeth's getting such and becoming obsessed, to the good doctor playing along that she had died. The good doctor probably offered to handle the arrangements so that the distraught Nicholas could be spared further mental strain, thus leaving a huge open window for him to plant the corpse for the later reveal once he and Elizabeth succeeded in making Nicholas want to reopen the tomb.

Sometimes, I think people want to find faults so badly that they overlook the blatantly obvious.

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I'm confused...


Obviously. Try watching the movie again, except this time actually pay attention. There is nothing hard to understand going on here. It probably wasn't even a real corpse and was instead only a mock up designed for dramatic effect to scare Nicholas when the time came to open the crypt, as I can't imagine Elizabeth laying in a crypt that had a real decaying body in it.

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