Cruelty to horses


Absolutely horrendous, those poor horses - what an awful film. How were they allowed to make it?

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Absolutely horrendous, those poor horses - what an awful film. How were they allowed to make it?

Until the incident during the filming of Heaven's Gate, where a horse was killed furing the filming of that movie, Hollywood could more or less do whatever they wanted to animals.
Hell, if you anything about the history of Hollywood, you'd know that the actors weren't treated much better during the studio system (see: Judy Garland).

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I just saw it for the first time and i had trouble with those scenes too, in fact i was checking the boards to see if anyone had said anything about it. It seems like not much was staged and these horses seemed terrified. It was tough to watch. Made me like Monroe's character though. Up til then i didn't really care about her character. Funny that the only compassionate chracter is seen as crazy (well by Wallach's chracter anyway). In this day and age compassion seems to be seen this way, like you're crazy if you exhibit any.

Anyway I reccomended to my gf she never watch it cause I dont think she could have made it through as a horse-lover.

And yeah knowing they didn't care much about animal safety in these days kinda sometimes spoils the fun of watching old westerns.... I prefer the ones that are not too heavy on horseback action. I was reading recently that in the 3:10 to yuma remake from like 3 years ago, at the beginning of shooting a horse got hurt along with the stuntman riding it. The horse had to be put down. American Humane Association then shut the set down for an investiagtion. That's what happens now at least. The thing is, if today shooting a movie in modern conditions when they know they have to care and be careful, and an accident like this STILL happens, i don't want to think about how many horses were put down on movie sets 60 years ago then, when they didn't care....(well im sure SOMME people making films did but you were not required to)

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The most disgusting thing I ever read about horse cruelty was when they made The Charge of the Light Brigade with Errol Flynn and they tied fish wire to the horses during the big charge at the end of the film and then they'd fall and have to be killed. God knows about the poor extras who were riding them.

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Oh come on, the only reason you think it's cruel is because it ended up on film! I don't see what's cruel about the treatment of horses in The Misfits. They just caught them and tied them down. How else are you suppose to catch a wild horse? I don't see how they were harmed... possibly startled but being an animal means being afraid and cautios about everything and everyone... so they kick and stomp of course, and it looks violent. But calling it abuse, I don't think so.

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Totally agree with you

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I think it was just as "Horrendous" all the excessive drinking, smoking, drunk driving, womanizing, pollution, non Minorities, etc...??? Where's the PC police when we need them ???...sarcasum

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yvonnewilliams, thanks for this thread.

I haven't seen this film in years, but it has left a lasting impression on me and is one of my all-time favorites.

"How were they allowed to make it?"
As has been mentioned, times were different.
All kinds of cruelties - even to humans - were somehow allowed many years ago.
Sometimes I don't feel like there is much hope for humanity, but in fact we have come a long way (even if we have a long way to go).

The way I look at it, the wranglers that handled the horses on a set like this were no doubt hard core rancher/cowboy types - pros. Horses, on one hand, were just stock (like cattle). Most of us eat cattle and some people even eat horses.
So, horses - in terms of stock - were property to be "used".

Now, I don't think cowboys would treat their own trained horses badly, but I suspect these were rough stock even genuine wild horses from a recent wild horse roundup. Back in the day - ranchers would shoot such animals as nuisance critters. I know its hard for "city folk" to understand, but talk to an old rancher or farmer; they have a different outlook on "stock" - not to mention nuisance animals.

Even in modern westerns, what may look like pretty rough treatment of horses is actually very carefully choreographed using expensive well trained stunt horses (not "throw-away" rough stock); stunts are not quite as dangerous as they appear to movie viewers.

I personally believe that care was taken by highly skilled horse wranglers to avoid/reduce injury to those horses.

But, what I remember was the torment, the terror and anger that "screamed" forth from the captured horses. That was real, not Memorex; disturbing; gut-wrenching.
I feel bad for anyone who doesn't understand how cruel it was to torment those animals to such an extreme. Any viewer that didn't feel for the mare and her colt is, sadly, heartless.

As much as I love this movie, I wish they'd found another way of pulling this off, but I'm not sure they could have - with the same impact (I suppose they could come close).

So, though in-excusable (especially in our time), the result of "using" those poor animals might be viewed in "documentary fashion" - a re-creation of what was once acceptable and why, as our characters decided - it was a heartless practice that should be discontinued. Part of the message of the movie might have been - there is enough cruelty in the world already and - as desperate as our lives may become - we don't have to contribute to it.

And yet, to some extent - the practice of capturing wild horses continues:

It still happens - man still chases down these wild horses, sometimes from the air:
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-03/us/wild.horses.government.roundup_1_wild-horses-horses-and-burros-herd-management-area?_s=PM:US

And you can be sure that the horses are terrified; bucking, kicking, struggling to get away; screaming out with terror and no doubt occasionally with injury.

Washington:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760780,00.html

Wyoming:
http://trib.com/news/local/state-and-regional/blm-wyoming-wild-horse-roundup-starts-saturday/article_2717b815-39da-52cf-b891-472497e2cf2e.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15599367

It is what it is - and The Misfits, like it or not, dramatically illustrated - perhaps like no other - the problems that persist even to this day. So, right or wrong; intentionally or not, the suffering of those animals in The Misfits went on to serve a higher purpose - raising awareness.

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I just saw this movie last night and the scenes with the horses had me in tears. I am glad filming has changed in this day and age, but it was brutal to watch.

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so true. hurting nice horses to make this overacted/dramatic crap

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'Ya know,

If all of you Effing Liberals REALLY gave a rat's ass about the wild horses in Nevada, then why aren't you all protesting the BLM's own treatment of them???

They round them up & kill them off in wholesale numbers, and not a peep out of one of you. And guess what? They're probably selling them off as dog food as well. (they used to round them up & give them away for free, but not enough takers)

So, until you really know what you're talking about, do us all a big favor, and STFU, and enjoy the film!

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Why don't YOU STFU? I have watched The Misfits 20 times in my life and always turn it off before the cruelty begins. It's despicable what they did and how they filmed it. Gut wrenching, in fact. And how the hell do you know many of us posting here don't protest the BLM's treatment of wild horses? Or give generous donations?

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The glee on Eli Wallach's face, the rousing music, just awful to watch.

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I am formerly known as HillieBoliday....Member since May 2006

If you want to educate and inform people...then do so! But don't come on here with your generalizing, finger pointing, ignorant rant! How do you know those of us on this board don't care about the wild horses in Nevada... that's why we are on this board! And how do you know that we are not protesting? When did you send a check, and how much did YOU donate to the Bureau of Land Management?

Make sure you know what the heck you're talking about before YOU open YOUR BIIIIIGGGGGG MOUTH...because you sound so stupid!!!


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Well put, its just a movie. No animals were harmed. That's why it's called movie magic

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Saying there is cruelty in the world so, what the hell, let's add to it is not a coherent argument. Whether or not the entertainment industry frightens or injures horses does not determine whether or not the BLM does. People have to start the push for humane treatment somewhere, they might as well start it here.

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Show how much YOU know. I support wild mustangs, both by signing petitions and sending money. So don't lump us all together. Just because YOU have no compassion doesn't mean we all do.

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See what I mean???

A year and a half after my post, and I drive by the BLM's corral north of Litchfield, California, several times a week: not one horse, not one protestor. But I got called a lot of names!

How about that?

Only one person got the gist of my post: IT'S A MOVIE!!!!!!! Yes, it points out something that may have been going on back then - but it's something that your own government is doing today, and not one of you is out there trying to stop it.

I haven't seen one news story here in Reno, NOT ONE, about any of you coming here, and offering to take all of the horses.

Why do they get rounded up? Because they're not native to the area, that's why.

And yes, I do have compassion - towards animals, but not much towards people, because, for the most part, they don't deserve it. The elderly do, children do, but everybody in-between? Not really. Look at what they do to one another?

Oh - by the way: it doesn't take a check for $100.00 to file a letter of complaint with the BLM - only enough of your time to type it up, and a stamp. Those checks you write to various groups - the person whose six-figure salary your paying, thanks you very much.

Check out the group, before giving your money.

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I was hoping for a better ending, where the horses stomped all the men's heads into the ground, exposing what little brains they had.

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