what? no posts about this film?? anyway, this is a suprising film for corman and shatner is actually quite good in it.
shareHands down, no debate, this is OBVIOUSLY Corman's best film ever. I don't know of any others that even compare, and Shatner gives a chillingly great performance of one of the scariest bad guys ever in a movie.
shareIve just bought this DVD from Amazon.com, its quite rare apparently and it was a LOT cheaper then buying it via the UK Amazon.co.uk site for some reason!
I remember seeing this film YEARS ago and thinking how superb it and Shatner were, hes such a presence and its a very powerful film. I tell you what, that Corman may have worked on a shoestring but he made some cracking films and helped launch a lot of careers. Didnt Shatners character dress all in white for this movie??? wont know for sure till my DVD arrives!
I found it amazing and riveting. I even want to show it to my racist friends, to try to shut them up. I'm hoping it will be like the time I brought my sexist brother to a ladies golf tournament, and as soon as he watched Laura Davies and Seri (sp) Pak play the first hole, he never said another disparaging word about women golfers again, he was so humbled.
share"No debate" ?!? What is this - IMDb No.Korea edition ?
Shatner's very good, and the film has some interesting qualities...but "great"? I for one wouldn't throw that word around so loosley. Clarence Brown's 1949 'Intruder in the Dust' - now THAT is a great movie. This is a good one. Not nearly Corman's best.
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I just concluded a little Roger Corman fest at home and fortunately I found THE INTRUDER in our library system. Talk about saving the best for last. I didn't expect much but it is the best work that Corman ever did. The film makes you squirm, you feel the constant heat and William Shatner also does his best work as one of the most despicable villains on film. As any great director, Corman gets the most out of his secondary actors and Leo Gordon, Frank Maxwell, Robert Emhardt, Jeanne Cooper are excellent. It's a shame that no one saw the film in 1962. A film way ahead of its time.
Yes, his best. And ironically it's the only of his films that lost money. (At least that's what I've read.)
shareA legal download of this film under the title Shame is available at www.archive.org at http://www.archive.org/details/shame_ . It is not great quality but the film is hard to find.
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I don't agree with that. Corman'c cult success with low budget horror is undeniable, even if you don't love his brand of colourful ghouls. But The Intruder is a film that deserves (and is) taken seriously on a whole different level. It was the only film he put his heart and soul into and I think it shows.
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Exactly how much should I know before I am entitled to express an opinion? I have seen a lot, if not all, of his films. I am familiar with his extensive work as a producer/distributor and the debt the industry owes him. I am aware of his writings and seen him in interview. And I have pored through numerous genre studies and critical analyses that consider his work both in its own right and within cinema history generally. I also readily acknowledge that different people may have individual favourites that they are very loyal to.
Perhaps the question should be, Dear Man with a huge penis, on what evidence you base your bold assertion. Or rather unsupported put-down of my post?
But maybe you are not serious. If you are, why not tell the board why you think The Raven or The Masque or any of his other remarkable films are, in your opinion, the best. Or maybe you just like a wind-up. In which case I'll leave you to it. There are plenty of folk interested in mature discusssion.
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Well, thank you for your more detailed post. Apart from the personal abusiveness, it contains some good points.
Much of what you are getting so hot under the collar about though involves simple misreading of my post. I rather think you have a lot of angst against people who slate Corman's horror and are on the look out for any likely suspect. Not me mate.
I'm not going to engage at length with you unless you want to be a bit more civil. You can read my analytical reviews on a few hundred films should be so curious, including a lot of genre films I also rate highly but have been (wrongly) in my opinion discarded as rubbishy by some.
The difference between a 'personal opinion' (your phrase again, not mine) and a reasoned one is just that. One can like anything, but only when you substantiate your opinion does it make it reasoned. I replied to your brash, unreasoned post - and also a direct attack - with a reasoned statement. You have at least done me the honour of replying likewise. But don't expect your aggressively expressed opinions to be taken as gospel when you do not substantiate them! Nor expect assertions like 'you know nothing about Corman' to hold unless you can show I am lying.
Going back to the difference. I actually said, "The Intruder is a film that deserves (and is) taken seriously on a whole different level." I did not say his other films don't deserve to be taken seriously - they do - but on a different level. If the Intruder were just a good psychological suspense story it would be taken seriously by a broader cross-section of the critical and viewing public than the horror films. But it is more than that. It impacts directly on the world. In other words, it deserves to be taken seriously by people with no interest in films. The psychological dynamics of racism, expressed in the movie, are instructive - I have tried to bring this out in my review, which you can see on IMDb or on Eyeforfilm.
A parallel argument could be made for, say, Masque of the Red Death perhaps - students of interior design with no interest in film could benefit from looking at Roeg's deeply affective colour schemes as you pass from room. But interior design is not on the same level of seriousness as the reasons why people kill each other over skin colour.
There are many ways you can misread what I have said here as well, so do please look at the exact statements before reading your own implications into it.
Hope this helps.
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To be sure, you were referencing the poster who deleted his own messages -and not I- when you refered to the "Dear man with the huge penis", correct? I was certainly not abbusive or wound-up or possessing a large penis when I wrote MY little thing. So...?
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Sure you weren't but way say that the poster above you used the term great too loosely? Even if you disagree with his opinion he could be far stricter than you : )
Personally I consider this one of the 50 best films ever made, and it's nearly perfect as well. By miles the best film I have seen from Corman (so far the second best is "St. Valentine's Day Massacre").
It might also be added that it appears to have nearly one rating more than the second highest rated Corman film it would appear that most other people hold a similar opinion. Not to throw public opinion in your face and state that it is correct but to perhaps persuade you to choose your words a bit more carefully.
Somebody here has been drinking and I'm sad to say it ain't me - Allan Francis Doyleshare
" but to perhaps persuade you to choose your words a bit more carefully"...
Which words are those?
I contend that there are at least a few of the Poe's that are better directed than The Intruder , as well as The Trip and X - The Man with X-Ray Eyes which I like better than The Intruder , itself a very good film. I'm not a genre nut, I only calls'm as I sees'm. And I will always think Clarence Brown's Intruder in the Dust to be profoundly better than any of the 1950's-60's racial films. And Public Received Opinion, yes, need not be thrown in anyone's face. It proves nothing more than what the going mediocrity is at the moment.
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Yeah - a dead serious message movie by Roger Corman... who would`ve known. And the bugger pulled it off, too. His best indeed. The only puzzling part is that, according to the trivia section, Corman apparently disliked Shatner`s performance and blamed him for the film losing money. Weird - seems to indicate he made a movie as excellent as this by accident...
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan
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