Jackie Chan?


The complete(more or less) filmography I have for Jackie Chan gives this film as one of his first credits. If so, he would have been about 6 at the time. Or is this due to the similarity of names?

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Jacqui Chan is a woman. No relation.

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Jacqui Chan played Gwennie Lee in the film.

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Thank you. One of my reference books ILLUSTRATED DICTIONARY OF INTERNATIONAL FILM STARS apparently confused them. They are unusually thorough when it comes to credits for 1000 actors and actresses and also have a volume dedicated to character actors with an emphasis on English cinema.

For instance, I never knew Ben Johnson was a stuntman at Republic Pictures before John Ford discovered him. I"ve spotted him in one Randolph Scott western where he has one line and inexplicably vanishes when he enters a bar.
In William Elliott's WYOMING he plays a ranchhand and is quite slender compared to his early Ford film. You have to start somewhere.

See you at the movies.

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The worst case of confusing individuals with similar names I ever came across was when "Your Money or Your Wife" was broadcast on television quite some years ago and the reviewer in the paper said, "This has curiosity value because it features a performance by Ian Fleming who, before he went on to write James Bond, had a brief career in films". This statement is wrong on every conceivable level. For as start, Ian Fleming's film career was anything but brief; It ran from 1929 to 1962 and, numbered 27 films. As is probably obvious by now, it was a different Ian Fleming. What is also obvious is that this was not just a mistake, the writer had made it up on the spur of the moment, assuming - from the actor having the same name - that he must be Fleming the writer and, spinning out of that the glib 'knowledgeable-sounding' factoid, "before he went on to write James Bond, (he) had a brief career in films". This writer did not carry out the simplest checks, he did not reach for his copy of Halliwell's or Katz or make a quick telephone call to his local library.

Sometimes I wonder how people manage to get jobs like that - or any job.

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I used to have a book Who Was Who in Hollywood 1900--76 with filmographies of numerous actors. The compiler did exactly what you found out about Ian Fleming. "Do not confuse with..."

Examples included: Tom Steele the longtime stuntman vs. Tommy Steele the British rock singer/actor

Two Harrison Fords and Two William Holdens

Two Charles Kings

And three James Stewarts one of whom changed his name to Stewart Granger

And then there are people who have the same name as Johny Carsn, Gail Fisher and Stanley Price who was a longtime character actor and dialect coach. I met Price during a job interview and immediately recognized the name. When the sctor died, Price's wife received letters of condolence from people who remembered the actot. Price was a distant cousin of Vincent Price and had a chance to meet his famous cousin when he was doing a one man show about Oscar Wilde at Ford's Theater. I wonder how many people would recognize the name.

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Gosh, it's an epidemic! Or perhaps I mean it's endemic. ;) I was once introduced to a writer called John Priestley whom I was sure must be J. B. Priestly - until I asked him and he said no, he wasn't. On another occasion I was introduced to Michael Heseltine 'from the Conservative Party' who, clearly was not THE Michael Heseltine. I wonder how many people are invited to open supermarkets or sports centres because they happen to have a famous name and, I wonder how many people actually turn up at the venue, to red faces all round?

Or there was the time I borrowed a talking book version of Stephen Hawking's 'A Brief History of Time' read by Michael Jackson. I was somewhat disappointed when I played it and it was not read in a high pitched voice, interrupted by even higher pitched squeals. Now that would have been something!

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Years ago a friend asked me if I were any relation to Larry Woodall, the baseball player who was Ty Cobb's second string catcher and also a scout and bullpen manager for the Red Sox. "He's father's stepfather." My brother Larry was named after him, and I don't know if he was ever asked the same question.

In my hs home room we had John Williams and James Woods, we alao had Carl Bernstein, Ben Stein, Goldie Hawn, Connie Chung and Norah Roberts before they became famous as well as Sylvester Stallone who didn't graduate.

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There were a couple of other same names I remembered afterward. Hong Kong actors Tony Leung and Tony Leung, one of whom was gay and committed suicide several years ago. Then there was George Lloyd who managed the local Bob Evans. He had never heard of the character actor George Lloyd and thought he shared the same name with British Prime Minister Lloyd George.

Years ago somebody stopped me and said I looked like Gene Hackman. When I was workiing in a theater two men came in and one said "You look like Gene..." I said Gene Tierney but he didn't get the joke. I still couldn't find the resemblance.

Speaking of which I have met guys who looked like David Carradine, Christopher Lee and Charlton Heston. Speaking of Stephen Hawking, a friend of mine Chuck Rich was cast as a Hawking type character in Jodie Foster's Contact for a big conference scene. Chuck is confined to a wheelchair and had a service dog named Gregg. At one point in the filming Greg got bored, got up and started to walk out. Foster said "Bad dog."

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You met somebody who looked like Christopher Lee? The real Lee was 6 feet 5 inches tall, but has since lost an inch. He would have had to look up to me as I was 6 feet 9 inches in hs, but now have shrunk some. Anyway...

Blue as a persimmon in heat.

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Ah, the incredible shrinking man. That was years ago in an unemployment support group, and his wife even said he looked like Lee though nowhere as tall.

I was told years ago I look like Gene Hackman, but I could never see the resemblance. When I worked at a theater two men came in, and one said "You look like Gene..." "Tierney." I replied but he didn't get the joke.

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If he didn't get the joke he was a bit thick. I've had people tell me I resemble either George Reeves or Herman Munster; I'll answer to both, but I'd rather have the cheese.

Blue as a persimmon in heat.

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That's quite a resemblance--Herman Munster and George Reeves. Bit of trivia for you. My wife worked for the National Institute of Standards and Technology across the street from us in Md. The director's son was John Astin who, of course, would later star in the Addams Family.

The reason Yvonne DeCarlo starred in The Munsters was that her husband stuntman
Bob Morgan had almost been killed in logcar squence in How The West Was Won when he was doubling George Peppard and the chains holding the logs on the car broke. Morgan lost an eye and a leg, and DeCarlo had to go back to work to pay the bills. Strangely the commentary for HTWWW doesn't mention the accident.

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I remember way back when HTWWW was still hot hearing about a stuntman being badly hurt, but never heard or read any more about it; so that wasn't a complete surprise. A few years ago, my wife and I saw John Astin in a one man production of "An Evening with Edgar Allan Poe". It was rather entertaining. About Herman Munster, it was because I wore a big fake fur coat that sort of resembled the one Karloff wore in "Son of Frankenstein" and people, not being able to think of anything original, would call me Herman and/or Frankie. Personally, I see no resemblance to Reeves, but that's as may be.

Years back when I played football in high school, the coach told me if I ever got tired of people saying to me "How's the weather up there?" I should tell them "Fine. How's it down there by my ass?"

Blue as a persimmon in heat.

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One of my semiregular customers was 7'. I always hoped he sat in the back row.

Bob Morgan appears in the documentary for Wayne's The Alamo. And in the doc for HTWWW I seem to recall there's footage of the accident. I think he fell off the car and the wheels ran over one of his legs. He can be seen in Alvarez Kelly.
I had a doc The Republic Pictures Story where stuntman/stunt director Tom Steele says no matter how well you plan a stunt, something can always go wrong. The doc is dedicated to Steele whose career started with Captain Blood and included Blazing Saddles.

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After replying I realized who I was talking to. How are you doing? We seem to go from one disaster to another, it seems. Scruffy came down with sarcoptice mange, probably caused the mites who got a free ride from the rats we had in January. Two vets failed to diagnose why Scruffy was itching and scratching one leg to where it was bleeding, and we had to go to a third vet. In Scruffy's opinion his regular vet doesn't live up to his name--Hurry. Weird name for a tall, bearded man with a thick Scottish accent.

Finally caught up with The Hobbit. I read LOTR forty years ago but only got around to the book a few years ago. Well done but13 dwarves is a bit much, especially when you can't tell them apart in most cases. Watching these movies is almost akin to watching all four Dick Tracy or Zorro serials back to back.

Also watched The Wizard of Oz for the umpteenth time with the commentary--Margaret Hamilton, Ray Bolger, Jack Haley and Jerry Maren (who held the lollipop) in what must have been a panel discussion. Hamilton cracked up the audience.

I used to have the complete Oz soundtrack on DVD which included supplemental material such as outtakes, alternate versions. There is a company that sells comlete soundtracks, one of which is the complete soundtrack to Wayne's The Alamo as well as Tiomkin's Fall of The Roman Empire.

I used to have an extensive collection of soundtracks, the most valuable being Vertigo which had a $50 price tag. I caught Tiomkin on a Jack Benny rerun late one night. One other item in their catalogue, thinking of DT, is the complete soundtrack to High Noon.

I didn't realize for years that Jack Elam was the drunk in the jail cell in High Noon. Apparently after Cooper releases him he has encounters with the killers, but that was cut from the film and Elam didn't receive credit.

I read an interview with him years ago where he talked about working for Hopalong Cassidy as a bookkeeper even though he had no training. He did everybody's tax returns back in the days when things were simple, and then he started having trouble with his vision. His doctor told him to find another job or he could lose his vision in his good eye. Somebody from a company asked him to do the financing for two low budget westerns, probably The Sundowners and High Lonesome. "Only if you let me play the villain."

Van Cleef was another former accountant.

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A "semi-regular customer", ehh? What were you running besides a Ponzi scheme?

Too bad you have nothing to say about the movies; with yer voluminous knowledge you could put at least a third of it in a Trivia encyclopedia of yer own. Elam and Van Cleef sounded like a shady law firm with names like that. I thought "The Sundowners" was that Austrailian flick about sheep ranchers.

My wife wanted to see the Hobbit movie in the cinema, so we went to it in 3-D on a gigantic screen; it was sort of fun, but the first 45 mins. being exposition kind of squashed it for me. The rest was a lot of anti-climatic rushing around except the Gollum thing down in the cave. For the most part, I thought it was a bore and it certainly didn't need the 3-D. Won't bother to see the rest of it in the cinema.

So, yer poor poochie has had a hard time with mange. And U were inundated with rats? How much fun was that?

Hope we have some better days ahead filled with only thoughts of the silver screen.

Blue as a persimmon in heat.

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The Sundowners was made about 1950 with Robert Preston, Chill Wills, Robert Armstrong and Jack Elam, if you can believe it, as a weakling husband. High Lonesome was a lowbudget western about the same time with John Barrymore Jr. as a troubled teenager.

Thinking of Barrymore reminds me his daughter Drew is now cohosting The Essentials with Robert Osborne. Saturday they had Gun Crazy, a Bonnie and Clyde variation with John Dall of Rope and Spartacus, Peggy Cummins of Curse of The Demon and Rusty Tamblyn along with Ray Teal and Trevor Bardette who don't receive billing. Dall and Cummins meet at a sideshow and are soon engaging in a you show me yours-I'll show you mine kind relationship that kinda echoes the Clift-Ireland relationship in Red River. It's a deglamorized, fatalistic variation on BAC.

To be continued.

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A lot of that knowledge gets winds up in my stories.

The Return of Norma Desmond, or Sunset boulevarde II based on an idea by Holden
The Quiet Gun a locked room puzzle featuring Audie Murphys hired killer in No Name on The Bullet
The Chrysalis Trilogy a 771 page transgendered fantasy winding up in a 10 chapter saturday matinee serial
Ken-i-sha-wa, The Stone Warrior of Iwo Jima a mixture of John Wayne's The Sands of Iwo Jima, Eastwood's films and a monster out of Ray Harryhausen(unfinished)
Treausre Island with Zombies(incomplete)
The Man Who Lived across The Hall from Woody Allen my only psychological horror story which scared the hell out of me
No More Room in Hell a variation on The Wages of Fear with numerous references, in jokes and one diatribe against the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

I suppose some of this is the Tarantino legacy. Did you know he's working on Kill Bill 3? Three or four of the references in those filsm:

Cornell Woolrich's The Bride Wore Black
Lady Snowblood s Japanese samurai films with a female protagonist
Sonny Chiba's swordmaker Hanzo is a nod to Shintaro Katsu of Zatoichi fame as a inquisitor who gives new meaning to beating your meat in the Hanzo The Razor films
Gordon Liu of countless Chinese martial arts films was the Bride's sensei and one of the masked villains

I think #3 involves the young girl in the first movie seeking revenge for her mother's death.

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So, the Chrysalis Trilogy is actually 771 pages long? How could you keep it going for so long? And how much research did you do on the transgendered? Seems to me you ought to know something about it before writing. Have you ever had anything published or purchased? I've got a masters in creative writing and I could never write anything that long.

You know a great deal about chop socky. That's a genre I've always thought was below contempt; could never get into it. If Tarantino is doing another Bill, I will certainly pass it up.

So you couldn't figure out a way to end Treasure Island Zombies, ehh? Have you ever thought about putting all of them into a Johnny Depp Pirates adventure and blowing them all up on a roller coaster? Maybe something to think about.

Blue as a persimmon in heat.

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771 pages? I threw everything but the kitchen sink into it, considering I didn't know where I was going with it except Chapter 21 of Volume Two would end on a cliffhanger ending from Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars.

The basic idea was a princess is murdered for her throne and is restored to life. She sets out to regain the throne but at the end of volume three the villain gets away. Not very original, and I didn't know what to do for volume 3 until I came up with idea of doing a Saturday matinee serial. Unfortunately the only copy of that volume has been irretrievably lost on old floppy disks. The lesson? Save, save and save.

Except for one of my doctors buying a copy of a short novel, I've never sold anything. What I've had published was voluntary magazine articles for a Navy magazine and one poem.

The Song of The Siren

My love came to me.
My love came to me
From the depths of the sea.

And I must go.
And I must go.

The crashing of the wave.
The crashing of the wave
Leads me on to a watery grave.

And in the ocean depths.
And in the ocean depths
I find my true love-Death.

I wrote that for a story almost fifty years, and it eventually found its way into that 771 page novel.
To where she waits for me below.



To be continued.

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There is a missing line in that poem:

And I must go.
And I must go
To where she waits for me below.

A poetry instructor told me years ago that she thought the poem was so close to perfect she didn't know where to tell me it needed improvement.

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