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Why is nobody discussing this masterpiece?


We should all be ashamed of ourselves people, including myself, for not discussing this wonderful under-rated masterpiece. It has everything - the technical and thematic improv. of Godard, the unique warmth of Francois Truffaut, some fantastic B/W cinematography, Paris in the 1960's and a quite mesmorising performance from little Charles Aznavour. Its all about trying to escape the past, and never quite succeeding - true film noir homage and in my view, one of the greatest examples of what can be achieved with imagination and great film-making.

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Yeah, it is a good noir film. The voice-overs are fantastic. I like the conflict between what the Piano Player says to himself in his head and what he does. The dissonance is a theme I have not seen pulled off in another movie——at least seriously. "What Women Want" has that sort of thing but it is just a comedy. And the "I swear on my mother's life" scene is hilarious. No one would think to show the mom dying after he says that.

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Very true, that mum dropping dead scene was a classic - if I remember nothing else about this film, I'll remember that. The best bits for me were definitely the dialogue in the car between the 2 men.

All told, not in the same league as the previous '400 Blows' which I watched last night. I thought it was too contemplative and quite patchy for long periods, and I wasn't sure about the ending either.

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Yes, this is a great movie, sweet and sad and funny, one of my all-time faves. Marie Dubois in this film is also the most beautiful woman who has ever existed.

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Marie Dubois....oh sweet Lord....you said it right.

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Probably because it's not. Substitute 'pretentious' for 'masterpiece' and you may get a few takers.

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It is great. The depth, the comedy, the performances, the vivid visuals...seriously a masterpiece. It all works so well.

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The news excited me when I found out that this, my favorite Truffaut
film, is being released on Criterion DVD in December, just in time
for Christmas. I expect them to do a magnificent job.

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I believe that a huge factor in this film's greatness is the music. In my opinion, today many film viewers would rather hear thumping, monotonous music as in Lola Rennt (Run Lola Run).

To me, it's sad that Tirez isn't in the IMDB top 250 but several cr***y films are.

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I don't know how Run Lola Run is really relevant here in this discussion at all. It's a very different movie with a much different aesthetic from the one Truffaut adopts in STPP (and the rest of his filmography)... and of course, there was a point to be made with that "thumping, monotonous" music featured in that film. I just think it's a little ridiculous to contend that every film should have music as the one featured in here, regardless of how well it works with the visuals.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

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After finally getting my hands on this film a few days ago, it has topped the list of my favourite Truffaut films. I just can't get enough of the random conversations, the warmth and the soundtrack. The two kidnappers are excellent, and yes, you can never see too much of Dubois.

The final shot will stay in my mind forever, it's so static, yet filled with so many emotions. The film has the sharpness of Godard, the shocking revelations of Cocteau, and the effortlessness of Truffaut. This is one of, if not THE best 'Nouvelle Vague' creations.

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I had this in my hand at Best Buy today and was heading to check out but the line was ridiculously long, so I put it back until next week.

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For such a short movie, it really does have about all it can cram in there. Of course the mother dying scene is just about everybody's favorite in the comedy aspect of the movie, but I also found the Framboise song to be quite funny as well, mainly because of the words being at the bottom of the screen. Truffaut did this as an homage to Norman MacLaren (The ball bouncing on top of the words guy).

"What's wrong with showing a guy getting his head cut off?" -Humphrey Bogart

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That's a good point. Why aren't they? people on this website write reivews on the latest un-rated explicit horror flick. But always avoid these type of films. I think they need to be more open-minded and just not go see the new movies. Instead, just take a strangers word for it and rent or buy these old froeign films and just try to take it in for once.

After all the production is perfect in all aspects and it's intresting and funny. So don't rent 'The Big Sleep' which is alot like like this (In fact Bogie could nail this role on te head) but they should try and look at somthing differnt for a change.

By the way anyone take a look at the stellar review of this by: Alice Liddel??

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You have to remember that a) this film is 46 years old and b) most people on these boards are under 35. You're talking about a film that's 10 years older than the average person who frequents here. Another thought:Not everyone cares about film as much as we do. Having said that, I bought the Criterion and couldn't be happier.




Damn you all! Damn you all to hell!

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Excellent casting and look to the film, but it really would have done it for me with an odder plot. Kind of provincial noir.

There should have been more crazy surprises like the singer with subtitles 10 minutes in, just to make it more memorable.

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On top of it being an amazing film, I find Charles Aznavour so sexy in this.

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Why is nobody discussing this masterpiece?
Masterpiece? No. A good film? Yes.

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not a huge truffaut guy (or even a big godard guy though i like more then truffaut) but i recently finally saw this and was really impressed. the cinematography, the story and the lead actor were great.

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Just saw this, an absolute masterpiece. One of the best films I have ever seen.

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Great film, had me hooked throughout - watched Antonioni's L'ECLISSE earlier the same evening and that was utterly boring by comparison despite it's elevated reputation. SHOOT THE PIANIST packs in just about every aspect of a good film. It's engrossing, exciting, tense, tragic, thoughtful, superbly cast and acted and beautifully made. I thought it a far more enjoyable film than JULES ET JIM which I watched a week before. Mainly it has to be said, because of the latter's rapid-fire voice-over which is hard going when you rely on the subtitles! If spoke fluent French I might see in it what many other clearly do.

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Don't know how I feel about the comparison with L'Eclisse, which is probably one of Antonioni's most experimental films. Given that his films are all about alienation and isolation, the existential crises of his characters, and a contemplation of the transience of life itself, they're not meant to be 'exciting' in any way... they would lose their poignant effect. Given how the director communicates primarily using a visual palette of landscapes and beautified environments (even if they're not something that would naturally be photographed, see: Red Desert) and how there's a certain abstract nature to his works (and meaning which sometimes eludes you on that first viewing), I suppose your reaction is quite understandable.

By contrast, Truffaut's approach, even with his visual flourishes, is much warmer, much kinder even if the content is bleak. He's hardly about alienating his audience and perhaps that's why his films are easier to digest... they certainly do allow you to escape in their fantasy worlds... the fourth wall is never broken, ala Godard, and the narrative is relatively clear-cut without too much of that visual ambiguity which pervades (and defines), for example, Antonioni's works. There's nothing wrong with that, of course, especially when it results in a picture as well-crafted and moving as Shoot The Piano Player.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

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