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OT: The Onion's AVClub's 1997 week


This week, the AVClub is reviewing/celebrating 1997, one of the best ever years for films both in the US and globally. Capped by board favorites LA Confidential and Boogie Nights and Jackie Brown and by box-office champ Titanic, the year featured strong films in almost every genre and style and from almost every corner of the film globe. Almost nobody saw it all at the time, but from the vantage point of two decades, 1997's harvest - 30+ terrific films including multiple all-time greats - looks untoppable. I *assume* that this is the main angle the AVClub will take, but we'll see...

Recommended.

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The first article is a review of the year's general cultural milestones from the arrival of DVDs (hard to believe that it was that late!) and CD-Rs (ditto!) to the death of Princess Diana and the arrival of South Park, Harry Potter, and The Spice Girls:
http://www.avclub.com/article/titanic-bittersweet-symphony-35-pop-culture-window-258566

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The first articles seem to rather fully envelop us in EVERYTHING from 1997, but I gotta go with the movies, and only(as always from me) in the "mainstream American tradition":

Titanic
LA Confidential
Boogie Nights
Jackie Brown
Face Off
As Good As It Gets

That's quite a mix. For me, its LA Confidential all the way as the winner from 1997...its the last movie(20 years now) that I fell in obsessive love with rather than just enjoyed. I'm STILL trying to figure out why. Some of it is who I saw it with and when and where; its rather like Psycho -- "My LA Confidential is not YOUR LA Confidential."

But I think LAC plays strongly to these likings of mine:

Hitchcockian craftsmanship -- everything looks good, there's no hand-held raggedness to it.

Hitchcockian screenwriting -- intricate but simple, great dialogue, great surprises, ever-building suspense.

NON-Hitchcockian "realism": Here is a movie about the interrelationship of Anglo-Americans, African-Americans and Mexican-Americans in 1953 Los Angeles that has a sort of "pox on all your houses" cynicism attached (see also: The Hateful Eight) even as the film concurrently studies the levels of "entertainment" coming out of Hollywood in that era: movies, TV, gossip industry, elegant Hollywood hookers(straight and gay). And its a mob movie, too, with a touch of The Untouchables(though THESE untouchables are tainted, indeed.)

I don't necessarily accept the racial tensions laid out in LAC as "inevitable," but the film says: "They are there, they were always there, we've got to work past them." The film has some Psycho-like narrative shocks along the way but ultimately pulls out a surprise "happy ending" that I value greatly. Life doesn't ALWAYS end like Chinatown.

Great cast, if almost all male(that's why Kim Basinger won the sole Oscar for acting, among other reasons, including: she's good.) Kevin Spacey's greatest role.

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I expect I'll re-visit this thread to re-visit some other great 1997 movies(of my liking, I welcome all others to expound on theirs), but I had to start with LA Confidential.

It just really got to me.

And now its 20 years later. Yikes!

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Yeah, what can one say about LAC? It's near-perfect, the sort of movie that you can probably teach yourself everything you need to know about movies from. Some people are going to prefer Heat or Se7en or Pulp Fiction or Unforgiven or Goodfellas or Boogie Nights to it, but that's LAC's level of achievement. But LAC had, as it were, an exceptional degree of difficulty to its particular achievement: ingeniously adapting the very complex and difficult to adapt (people would give up and make LAC a 10-12 hour mini-series these days), juggling genres from the Hollywood Insider flick to the mob flick, five strong leads, convincingly recreating period and place, all very, very hard to pull off. It all came together for Curtis Hanson on LAC, every trick from his Corman days and every screenwriter-for hire trick learned on things like The Silent Partner in the '70s, the slick action and suspense beats he polished in his '80s films, they all come back in LAC in improved, gleaming forms. A whole career had led up to this (just like everything Polanski had done led to Chinatown and everything Hitchcock had done led to Psycho) and Hanson and his partners crushed it. Home Run.

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Yeah, what can one say about LAC?

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Oh, a lot. Almost as much as about Psycho, except LAC is much more complex and intricate. At least on the surface.

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It's near-perfect, the sort of movie that you can probably teach yourself everything you need to know about movies from. Some people are going to prefer Heat or Se7en or Pulp Fiction or Unforgiven or Goodfellas or Boogie Nights to it, but that's LAC's level of achievement.

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All fine films as well, but with each and every one of them, I know why I prefer LAC to them. This is where our personal connection TO films comes in.

Pulp Fiction is my favorite of 1994, but I like Jackie Brown(of 1997) best of QT's works. And yet Jackie Brown just couldn't best the effect that LAC had on my emotions in '97. Still, as John Wayne says of the gun skills of Dino vs Ricky Nelson in Rio Bravo: "I wouldn't want to live on the difference." (Which reminds me: a great case has been made for Jackie Brown as QT's Rio Bravo: a long, pokey but absorbing film about largely middle-aged heroes, who sit around and talk a lot between action scenes.)

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But LAC had, as it were, an exceptional degree of difficulty to its particular achievement: ingeniously adapting the very complex and difficult to adapt (people would give up and make LAC a 10-12 hour mini-series these days), juggling genres from the Hollywood Insider flick to the mob flick, five strong leads, convincingly recreating period and place, all very, very hard to pull off.

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I read the book after I saw the movie and the achievement was manifest. Part of the deal was to cut out a lot of the book, scores of pages gone; to that extent the movie and the book are different creatures.

Hanson and co-screenwriter Brian Helgeland made two major plot changes to the book, both connected in the film: (1) The book opens with a big shootout at a motel(at a MOTEL, hey Norman!) that reveals the major villain in the first chapter-- the movie moves the shootout to the climax and hides the villain's identity for much of the movie and (2) a character dies in the book in an entirely different manner than in the movie...and how that character dies in the movie is a shocker for all times....and THAT's where the major villain IS revealed.

Oh, hell, GREAT BIG GIANT SPOILERS AHEAD

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GREAT BIG GIANT SPOILERS AHEAD

I don't think I've ever been more surprised, more legitimately shocked, at the movies than when, in the middle of a quiet conversation in the homey kitchen of Chief Detective Dudley Smith's quaint home -- Smith suddenly pulls a revolver and shoots amiable Jack Vicennes(Kevin Spacey) through the heart.

I was sitting there, somewhat interested in the scene but not much -- I knew the information that Vicennes was imparting to Smith about the case -- and suddenly, I realized how connected I was to the world of this film, and how utterly upended and lost I felt: oh no, Spacey's getting killed..he's leaving the movie. And Dudley Smith is far more cruel and evil than I had imagined(he'd been established as garden variety corrupt, but this was EVIL.) Watching Spacey's absolutely brilliant death scene -- Jack gasps for breath even as he realizes that Dudley's shot was perfect, he's only got seconds to live -- I felt a massive sadness, and a massive anger at Dudley.

Then I scrambled to figure out why this had happened. It took another viewing of the movie -- immediately -- to see how perfectly this perfect murder had been built up to, and how a sequence of wrong turns and ironic "what ifs" had set Jack Vicennes on course for his own murder.

The killing of Jack Vincennes is a mix of BOTH the shower murder(our star dies early) AND the staircase murder(the detective who has almost solves the crime dies for his good work.)

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SPOILERS:

But wait, its even better than that: Vicennes final words are "Rollo Tomasi." Another character(Guy Pearce's back-stabbing Boy Scout, Ed Exley) had told Vicennes that Rollo Tomasi was an imaginary criminal Exley had created in his mind to symbolize "the guy who gets away with it."

When, just ONE SCENE LATER after Jack is killed, Dudley asks Ed to investigate "Rollo Tomasi" -- bingo, Ed knows Dudley killed Jack.

The Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar was won right there, in those two back to back scenes(Jack's murder, Dudley's asking Ed about Rollo Tomasi) -- the emotion and excitement and intellectual brilliance of the writing here was just breath-taking.

I always liked that the 1997 Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar was presented by Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau that year -- and Curtis Hanson, as he picked up his Oscar for writing, acknowledged their ties to the great writer-director Billy Wilder.

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Here's the AVClub's 'top 20 films for 1997' article:
http://www.avclub.com/article/best-movies-1997-259214
They controversially rate Jackie Brown, Face/Off, and over-wrought French movie-insider vampire flick, Irma Vep ahead of more obvious, near-perfect choices like LA Confidential, Boogie Nights, and The Sweet Hereafter.

They find no room in their top 20 for Affliction, The Butcher Boy, Nil By Mouth, Funny Games, Fireworks, Firelight, Good Will Hunting, Winter Sleepers, Taste of Cherry, Career Girls, My Best Friend's Wedding, Open Your Eyes, Gattaca, Lost Highway.... and more generally they *don't* observe that 1997 was a film year for the ages in terms of both quantity of very good 'uns ('must-see-eventuallys') and numbers of all-time-greats (at least 4 or 5 I'd say).

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They controversially rate Jackie Brown, Face/Off, and over-wrought French movie-insider vampire flick, Irma Vep ahead of more obvious, near-perfect choices like LA Confidential, Boogie Nights, and The Sweet Hereafter.

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I hear you on these things, but I guess once lists are made..the debate begins.

I had a huge rush of nostalgia as I viewed that list because doggone...I saw pretty much every American film on it. I was obviously a bigger movie goer then, than now. This was specifically connected to my significant other of the time, a person who seems to have required two or more movies a week to be seen, I happily went along.

Two on the list I forgot about:

Grosse Pointe Blank: John Cusack was almost a star for awhile, and this is my favorite of his films. He co-wrote it with a mordant, fast-talking wit. He gets to act with his sister, Joan as his long-suffering secretary to his peculiar line of work: hit man.

This hit man goes to his ten-year high school reunion and the great joke is: nobody CARES that he's a hit man ("Oh, that's interesting.") Meanwhile, as a minor miracle: Dan Ackroyd is actually funny again in this film. I mean, hilarious, his old rapid-talking robo-man self. He's a crazed hit man who wants to form a "hit man union," to which Cusack replies, "But we're LONE gunmen." The scene where Cusack and Ackroyd have a conversation over breakfast that escalates into gun-pulling profane stand-off makes me laugh, as does this accusation by Cusack that Ackroyd is working with the Feds:

Ackroyd: Me?
Cusack: Yes.
Ackroyd: Go G?
Cusack: Yes.
Ackroyd: On YOU?
Cusack: Yes!
Ackroyd: Never!

Rat a tat tat.

As "explanation" for Cusack's hit man career, we meet his parents: (1) Dad is dead in a grave; Cusack pours whiskey on the grave in respect -- the man must have been an alky; (2) Mom is alive and in a mental institutution...and played by Madame Blanche herself, Barbara Harris(her last role?)

And I like Cusack's line to the girlfriend he's trying to win back(Minnie Driver) about how as a hitman, he only kills bad people:

"You should have seen the resumes on these people. It was like a DEMON's resume!"

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Breakdown: This is one of those movies that is "TOO suspenseful," but if you hang in there, the revenge ending is very satisfying.

My man Kurt Russell plays a guy driving with his wife across a vast Southwest desert. Their nice SUV breaks down. A trucker offers to help. Kurt unwisely leaves his wife alone with the trucker while he is driven by another motorist for help that isn't there. Voila -- the wife has been kidnapped by the "trucker" and his "desert pirates," who, it turns out, have been kidnapping drivers on the road for ransom for years -- and evidently killing their captives even if the ransom is paid.

Breakdown tracks with "The Lady Vanishes" in that this is what happens to Russell's wife. Most chilling scene is early: Russell returns to find the trucker, all alone. No wife. "Where's my wife?" asks Russell. The trucker -- with no other witnesses present, he does this just to bug Russell, says: "What wife? You didn't have a wife. You were driving alone. Are you nuts?" I found that conversation terrifying because its BEFORE cops arrive and the trucker starts telling the tale of no wife to the cops.

In the Hitchcock tradition, Russell and his wife(the really cute Kathleen Quinlan; she aged well) are the "regular folks" who must fight depraved villains. In this movie, the good guys win...and the payback on the bad guys is AWESOME.

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Movie Gap Confessions: I haven't seen Grosse Point Blank and I hadn't even *heard* of Breakdown before reading about it on the AVClub's list. Both sound like they're a lot of fun.

On top of its near-perfect films, 1997 is full of movies that are really up-to-something and that are either great fun or really devastating in their ways... Even a really tiny movie like Clockwatchers (1997) completely nailed the temping-in-an-office experience and had a central killer performance by Parker Posey (who never quite became the mainstream star she was threatening to become in 1997).

Here's NY Times Critic, AO Scott making the case for Gattaca (1997) - a film that works better now than it did at the time I think (i.e., as we've drawn closer to its world):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43gAIBzXzsw
and then the case for Princess Mononoke (1997):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZpCmcnM_s

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I came across an end-of-1997-year review of films panel with 3 critics and QT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoaQ-giW2rI
It's interesting to see so much love for Chasing Amy (including by QT who picks it as his film of the year). CA always struck me as a good film but not as anything very special , and I don't remember it as having a huge impact on people in a *very* strong, busy film year.

QT picks 'My Best Friend's Wedding' as his #2 which seems utterly perverse for him in the year of Boogie Nights and LA Confidential (was he trying at the time rather sourly to throw attention away from his close close competition - I tend to think that Hitchcock did a bit of this sometimes). At any rate, I'm guessing QT'd want that pick and probably 'Chasing Amy' back now.

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QT picks 'My Best Friend's Wedding' as his #2 which seems utterly perverse for him in the year of Boogie Nights and LA Confidential (was he trying at the time rather sourly to throw attention away from his close close competition - I tend to think that Hitchcock did a bit of this sometimes).

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Yes, Hitchcock was pretty good at pretending not to have seen or known about or cared about thrillers made by competitors.

The closest I ever saw was two comments he made(in separate interviews) about Jaws:

"Oh, yes, the big fish picture. It was quite good." (And that's as good as it got with Hitchocck.)

"Look at this poor Spielberg fellow. He makes the biggest hit of all time. How can he top that?" Hitchcock was thinking of his experience with Psycho, little knowing that the "age of genre blockbusters" was upon us and Spielberg would match or exceed Jaws many more times(but not THAT many more times: ET and Jurassic Park; Close Encounters and Raiders -- not all of them made Jaws money.)

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QT in 1997 gave us Jackie Brown, which pushes hard against Pulp Fiction as my favorite QT. It is easily the NICEST QT movie, even as many characters die. A lot of people -- me included -- see this as QT's "Rio Bravo" -- a long, talky comfortable movie that never feels OVERlong, with a focus on middle-aged people who have lived life.

But Jackie Brown had tough competition. Titanic blew everything away, leaving Jackie Brown to fight it out with LA Confidential, Boogie Nights and "As Good As It Gets" as the "IT movies" of the year. Only the first two were in QT's wheelhouse.

As for "My Best Friend's Wedding." I always thought the quasi-musical inclusion of a Burt Bacharach singalong("I Say a Little Prayer for You" in a fish restaurant) and Julia's gay male friend (so witty, so supportive) took that one over the top. The story was rather painful, I thought, and I've just never taken to Julia Roberts "style"(alternating big teeth and righteous anger.)

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At any rate, I'm guessing QT'd want that pick and probably 'Chasing Amy' back now.

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I have only the vaguest memories of Chasing Amy now -- mainly that weird-looking girl with the fingernails-on-blackboard voice. She got to be a star for about a year. Its too bad but -- that's Hollywood.

Wasn't the writer-director Kevin Smith, who parlayed "Clerks" and his Silent Bob persona into a mini-QT career for a few years?

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As for "My Best Friend's Wedding." I always thought the quasi-musical inclusion of a Burt Bacharach singalong("I Say a Little Prayer for You" in a fish restaurant) and Julia's gay male friend (so witty, so supportive) took that one over the top.
Oh, I agree that MBFW is a *very* good film (the director PJ Hogan made an even *better* music-driven, bitter, wedding comedy, Muriel's Wedding, earlier in the decade). This was such a great movie year that hellaciously fun, almost-completely-successful movies like MBFW, Face/Off (which came out the same weekend IIRC), Starship Troopers, Good Will Hunting, were just kind of 'filling out the top 20' of the best films of the year.

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