Banned?


I saw this film a couple of hours ago on TV, and I came on here and just cannot figure out why this was rated an 18 in the UK and banned in two countries. There was no sex, no violence, no gore, no bad language, no drugs, nothing.

reply

who knows.
I thought it was a good film although it seems to have been on the TV about 4 times in the last 2 years.

"aint nothin but a muffin,we got a lotta butter to go"

reply

the reason the film was banned is because of teh ideology, that the viewer becomes a voyeur with mark. There were concerns that becuase the audience saw alot of the film and sexual acts through Marks POV that it would become an influence and the audience would relate to marks sexual violence and not as michael powell had conceieved. He wanted the audience to respond to the desperation and reluctance of Mark to commit these acts but unfortunatly the censors at the time didnt see this connection. its fantastic that the film is finally getting a decent from of recognition.

reply

it's only banned in one country. if you read all the ratings, you see finland accepted it a k-14 rating, meaning anyone in finland can see it, because only the ratings 1,3,7,11,15,16 and 18 are binding in finland. the rest are recommendations.

SAY MY NAME, BITCH!
"Cowbell Solo!" Some guy from Cannibal!- the musical

reply

and it's ban in sweden has also been lifted, meaning it's banned in (drumroll) ZERO countries! yaay!

SAY MY NAME, BITCH!
"Cowbell Solo!" Some guy from Cannibal!- the musical

reply

Yoho

reply

Funnily it has just been re-rated in Germany from an "18" to a "12"...

.-)

reply

Sweden bans stuff?

reply

...It should be pointed out then during fifties and sixties the British Censorship office, or what ever it was called was very puritanical. Even science fiction movies like "War of the Worlds" (1953), "Gorgo" (1961) and "Plan Nine From Outer Space" (bad, but not immoral) were rated X (under eighteen not admitted). It's not hard to imagine what the censorship board's reaction to a serial killer movie would have been...As for Sweden "Citizen Kane" was (and maybe still is) fated for fifteen and above. In 1983 Speilberg"s "E.T." was deemed too frightening(?) for children young teenagers. The rating was changed as a result of the move becoming an international embarasment of sorts...Finland stood up to the Russian Bear for decades but they had a problem with big apes. "King Kong" (1933) was banned until the fifties. "Green Pastures" was also banned; strange.
People are just getting dumber, but more opinionated-Ernestine (Silks) in "The Human Stain"

reply

well, i saw it when i was about 14-15 years old... and it scared the begeesus out of me

We find your American beer like making love in a canoe. It's *beep* close to water!

reply

In addition to the extremely unsettling subject matter which has already been mentioned, I suspect the main character's side job as a producer and peddler of pornography was a little distressing to the censors of the time. The scene in the pornography shop has many pictures of nude girls for several minutes straight--they're in the background of the shots and I don't think details were really too visible or, at any rate, noticeable, but they're still there. I think the film would still probably receive an R rating today due to these scenes and the violent, sexually charged and extremely disturbing subject matter.

But you're right--it's a very dark premise, but it's mostly dealt with very tastefully and without any gratuitous sex or violence.

reply

[deleted]

**(SPOILERS)**


the time period that the film was made is important to remember. In 1960 this film was incredibly daring and shocking. Sex and violence was not a norm at that time, actually it was strictly Taboo in a lot of countries.Sex and violence were NOT part of children's daily cartoons back then as it is now! Also, no one has made note of the main character committing suicide at the end of the film. Many still have problems today accepting suicide in a film so it is easy to understand this aspect severly upsetting filmgoers of 1960.

reply

this film was one of the films we had to watch for my film degree, and im 20 and it scared me because i felt i was 'in on marks crimes' do you think men and women view the film differently?

reply

Well, I was watching it one time on video after i recorded it from tv, and not to sound immature, but I SAW A BOOB!!!! haha idk i think that might have to do with it too...that chick he photographs rite before he kills her....his last victim before himself......u can see her boob, but only if ur looking at her and not mark when hes getting towards her...but this was on at 2am on Turner classic movies...

reply

Suprised no one mentioned it, SNUFF FILM.

Obviously, the film is about a man's obsession with capturing fear on film. There's suicide and a boobie, but these things don't get a movie banned. This guy's obsession is so great that he invents the pop culture reality that is called a "SNUFF FILM". Snuff films are greatly frowned upon. Glorifying a film in which the main character is obsessed with creating such a thing is not appriciated, even in these times. Although banning the piece entirly would be facism since it is a piece of fiction, and film is an art form. (that's REAL terror folks, banning art!)

I just saw it again (first time was Drama class in Junior High!) and was thiking how brilliant it is and started thinking RE-MAKE, and realized that modern Hollywood could never present this in such an eerie way, and would try to offer up a chilling gore flic instead. Leave classics alone I say. Ban re-making classics, not the classics themselves.

Which leads me to pondered a fact: A "REAL" snuff film could never be re-made. It could be re-created, but the one time actor/actress is immortilized in a one-of-a-kind original piece that even transends fiction...

...I need my medication.










just kidding! <@:)

reply

Well, I took my meds today and I'd say linking this to "SNUFF FILMS" is a bit of a reach. It is my understanding that a snuff film involves someone getting killed in the act of sex. And then people get off on watching this. I think it was a great film and deserves reconsideration in this age of psychological feature films. I was a little uncomfortable with the really wooden acting ...

reply

I saw this film the other night and thought it was very much a head of it's time and indeed a masterpiece. I can understand why it may have been banned in some countries in 1959/1960. I don't recall many mainstream films with subjects such as pornography, snuff films and serial killers(except Norman Bates) around that time. I am surprised that it was made in colour as a lot of the British thrillers were in black and white but thought the colour added to suspense and terror.

I also watched the French film "Eyes without a Face" another movie very much ahead of it's time and worth a look.

reply

If Mark (the main character) gets pleasure out of watching people die, how are you not guilty of the same crime he is because you are getting pleasure (all be it from just watching a film) from watching people die on screen too. The film isn't really about a man with a killer camera it's about what you see, thats why the frst thing on screen in a human eye. Critics also took a dislike to the child been tortured by his farther in the films from my childhood sceen, the boy we see is Powels son (some clamied that the boy had no knowldge of this and his farther was actually shining a light on him as he slept) we also see Powel himself for a few seconds at the end of this sceen when Mark says here is my farther, my step mother is holding the camera now (or words to that effect)
The film was banned because it was a little to close for comfort for many people. However there are some true merits too, the film director in the studio where Mark works, is actually a blind man, (Powel's view on film at the time?) the film came out 2 years before phscyo, and yet the only fullyrounded character is the killer everyone else is a crook or to innocent or a drunk. Plus it has the great line "dont worry it's only a Camera."

reply

thats an excellent point =]

reply

Well you have to think about when the movie was made. During the 1960s this story was horrible and too scary to shown according to for example Sweden. I mean... Imagine Se7en being made in the 1960s. What do you think would have happened?

reply