is it not boring?


I dont know why a single feeling or theme is dragged in a movie emotionally,where it is very slow paced,with no interesting ingredients in the story are considered good,thoughtful intellectual movies?

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Well, stick to Balls of Fury or Superbad or other teen comedies then.

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Perhaps someone could describe how the film is great, how it affects them, etc. intelligently rather than just insult others who think differently. Common trashing on these boards. Perhaps the individual who asked the question would like to understand and enjoy films like this more, and needs some help from someone who does. If a film like this is explained to a "novice," then they can see what the filmmaker is trying to say. For many people growing up nowadays, the sheer quantity of junk that comes out of Hollywood makes it difficult for one to learn to appreciate real film greatness without at least some guidance. Many do recognize that stupid, shallow movies are just that, but the repeated bludgeoning over the head with them makes one immmune to the slower paced character/theme-driven film. I'm just learning myself. I find this film for instance very interesting, but also boring at many places. It's easy to watch this film and want the characters to do this or that based on all the films you grew up watching. Also the change in context (1960s Europe) makes it more difficult to identify with the characters and their actions, regardless of how universal the theme may be. Some films just lend themselves more easily to the viewer submerging themselves into the story and identifying with the characters. I know some people who didn't like "Lost in Translation" or "Broken Flowers" because "nothing happened." Well, those of us who liked those films know that's not true, but they couldn't appreciate what they viewed for what it was.

I'm no expert or film historian. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. Let the flaming begin.

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Monty you are the worst flamer ever


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Thanks Monty, excellent post. I am just getting into art film classics myself, and I know I sometimes struggle a bit... for example, I love Ingmar Bergman but felt a little lost in "The Silence". Likewise, I loved the experience of "L'avventura" but wasn't affected the same way by "La Notte"... so, hearing how these films impacted other viewers would prove helpful.

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Try reading James Monaco "How to read a film"! Helped me a lot - though years ago!

http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_ss_w?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=how+to+read+a+film&x=0&y=0

I try to see "La Notte" whenever possible in a theatre - since the seventies!

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Thank you monty. Posts like yours help some people to understand and maybe appreciate more movies like La Notte. I always liked Antonioni's work & L'avventura is a masterpiece. However, after first watching ,La Notte seemed extremly boring and pretentious for me. I though I was going to enjoy it more than L'avventura since it took place in one of the most gorgeous cities I've ever seen - Milan. Maybe I need to watch it again to fully appreciate it.

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I love the subtle films but I appreciated this one not at all. Too annoying based on a weak scenario. They would have been able to tell the tearing of a couple in another way.

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I am a person very fond of "deeper" films. I'm a big fan of Fellini, deSica and many others of the "modern" directors of the time. My problem with this film, as goes with others of Antonionis films, is his inability to create any kind of sympathy with the characters, his complete uninteresting stories and much more. I honestly did not care what happened to anyone in the film, I didn't even want to tell them to get a grip of their lives. I only found everyone present extremely self-centred and boring.

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Well the film is trying to portray the decadence of marriage and sentiments. If he makes one of the characters in the couple appealing, it would make the public "chose a side" which is completely contrary to the message of the film. Valentina is also just a young version of Lidia, so she couldn't be appealing. The film caputres why marraige fails, because there is no real connection. The catarsis is based on that, not based on the viewer liking one character or caring for his life, for their lifes are of spoiled rich intellectuals

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A good response, the above. What I pick up from this thread is that inexperienced viewers can follow the narrative line of L'Avventura but not that of La Notte -- hence they are turned off by it. The obvious suggestion: take care to see more good films and think critically about them. Certainly we react on a visceral level to film; but Antonioni (and frankly, I think all good film) demands much more than the gut response of "I followed this film, I understood it" or "I enjoyed what was happening in this film because I was able to understand it." Film is closest to music: any one moment in it must be considered against all moments put together, and none can be isolated.

Besides this: the broken flow of the narrative in La Notte is intended to mirror the breaking up of Giovanni's and Lydia's relationship, like the game of chess at the end of the film, or the swimming pool scene. The film is decidedly not about how sad it is that a couple breaks up, or how tortured are the lives of these two people. The film is their destruction, it is their impassivity. There is very little of sympathetic understanding in La Notte: a primitive state of anxious, unfulfilled, ever-present eroticism is closer to it.

View more of A's films for the verification of this.

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It is VERY boring.

Just as the people portrayed in the movie, the audience is taken to the emptiness and boredom of their lives.

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To me - films like this are either very good or really boring.

Personally, I had trouble finding a feeling about the main characters and if I don't have any emotion about main characters - it is a weak movie to me

The only part that struck me was when the girl said she wants to die since she doesn't love him any more.

4 / 10

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1/10 a slow film with absolutely no key scenes in it. 2hrs of nothing happening on screen for the pseudointellectual film critic

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Oh yeah, everyone who is not as conditioned and brainwashed as you by commercial hollywood entertainment garbage and "Samurai Gaming" and can actually relax and find beauty in a vision as original as Antonioni's is a "pseudo-intellectual film critic." lol

Stanley Kubrick's favorite films from Cinema (magazine) in 1963:

I Vitelloni (Federico Fellini, 1953)
Wild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman, 1958)
Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (John Huston, 1948)
City Lights (Charles Chaplin, 1931)
Henry V (Laurence Olivier, 1945)
La Notte (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1961)
The Bank Dick (W.C. Fields, 1940)
Roxie Hart (William Wellman, 1942) Note: at one point, he said this was his favorite film
Hell’s Angels (Howard Hughes, 1930)



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I think La Notte is, in comparison to Antonioni's other works, a much simpler and more overtly entertaining film. Oh no doubt, it isn't a popcorn film by any stretch, and his style is very much present, but when you compare it to L'Avventura and L'Eclisse, it's clear this movie's narrative is far more traditional in comparison. There doesn't seem to be as much going on beneath the surface in La Notte, not much to digest, the symbolism much more obvious, and unlike his other great works which seems to stick in the mind well after, La Notte doesn't. So in comparison to his other master works, La Notte pales.

However, taken on its own merits, "La Notte" is still a pretty strong movie. I don't think the visuals are anywhere near as striking or memorable as his superior works, but they're still quite impressive here. One particularly brilliant sequence is the night club dance, where the viewer can become so fascinated by what they're seeing, they forget a movie is going on, except for the ocassional glimpses in the very background of the couple watching, and we realize they are just as distracted, perhaps intentionally so. While there's plenty else to admire about the first hour, the movie's strongest is when it gets to the party, with the most memorable and entertaining characters. It is a lot more "fun" of a movie for Antnioni. Though the ending scene I thought was quite powerful.

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First of all anyone who would rate this film as a 1 out of 10 is a troll and a philistine.

As for Ore's assessment, I tend to share it. La Notte is not the same level of experimental movie that the other 3 in Antonioni's pre-Blow-up films, all with Monica Vitti, are. but for many this will not be seen as a negative.

The narrative is rather straightforward, focusing on the increasing anomie in the marriage of the central couple's, with an added dash of flirtation/distraction from Vitti's character. But with a heavy dose of existentialist angst and perspective included. I will say it is not a perfect film, despite my giving it a 10 (perhaps a 9.5 would have been more accurate), since there are two or three shots where even someone not suffering from ADD would find the camera lingers for too long.

But more than making up for it is the engrossing way the film brings us into the urban world of the then modernizing and cosmopolitan Milan, to me one of Italy and Europe's more interesting cities, given its Northern Italian mix of Italian culture with a more Euro urban feel than say Rome. Antonioni's great talent for examining the characters in this setting is definitely here.

The cast is also great, with Antonioni's use of the great Marcello Mastroianni providing a useful comparator especially to Fellini's La Dolce Vita (another great film). And Ms. Vitti is as always extraordinary. Her closing line about being worn out is priceless and an example of her essentially unique and impressive talent.

But this film for me is really Jeanne Moreau's. Her emotional range here is fantastic, but always in keeping with the requirements of the narrative. To be sure some might feel she is excessively morose, even depressed, at times, too many times. But she leavens those moments with other expressions, making you treasure her smiles and lighter moments. The net result is we see the events largely through her character, and it is a revealing experience. One of the great actresses of the 20th Century, this is one of her awesome efforts.

It should also be mentioned that the party included in the last half is a great set piece. The direction here is a true marvel. There is a naturalism, not something Antonioni is much known for, with keen observations of those present, but also with some surreal elements, such as the jazz band literally playing all night.

I do somewhat admire L'Avventura and L'Eclisse more, L'Avventura for its radical and subversive narrative course, and L'Eclisse for its depth and detail. But La Notte is one of the great films, to be sure, and I highly recommend it.

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maybe you should be married to enjoy this movie, i don't see any other way to emphasize with the characters





so many movies, so little time

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