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Was Martin Milner really a jerk?


I'm reading conflicting opinions of Martin Milner as he was known during the Route 66 series.
I'm reading that people say he was a real jerk, conceited, short-tempered, a loner, stand-offish. Can he really been all that bad?
But then I read that he was okay.

Which is which?

P.S. I'm not reading nice things about George Maharis either. I read that when Route 66 turned him into an overnight ladies' sex symbol and star sensation, it went to his head. I read he had hepatitis health issues but then I read more that he got into a disagreement over his pay and left the series. I never understood why Hollywood actors self-destruct themselves like that.

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There is a long thread about what a jerk he was. But just watching this show exhausts me. Imagine having to do 35 hour long shows like this and be moving every week and stay civil. I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

P.s do some more research--Maharis was not a"Ladies man".

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You're absolutely right. This show's filming must be insane. Imagine being the leading actor of a show that films ALL over the US and having to come up with 30 something episodes every single season. I admire him just for that fact alone.

" This is Baltimore gentlemen, the gods will not save you. "

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Except for the nasty, gossip-loaded post by Robert Spear, the assistant set decorator who worked on a Route 66 episode with Joan Crawford, I've never read a single article indicating that Martin Milner was anything less than a gentleman, a devoted family man, a loyal friend, and a hard worker.

If you have other sources for your assertions, post them. Just saying that a man is a "jerk" doesn't mean he is one.

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Well said; I've grown tired of the one-man slander campaign.

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Thank you, saburns1!

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Charles Herbert from 13 GHOSTS said Milner was a jerk, in so many words.

Shame, because Milner came off so likeable on screen.

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There are many that disagree with this assessment. Sometimes it's just a matter of how an individual is being treated at the time. Kent McCord raved about the man after his passing.

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Yeah, they say he was nicer later on.

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I have never heard a bad word about Milner. Kent Mccord loved him like a brother and also I have read that Glenn Corbett loved working with him as well. I am a huge fan of Adam-12 and bought Route 66 as well because of Milner. I have done a lot of reading on people that I like and Milner was one of the people that everyone seemed to like. I guess there will always be a few people that have something bad to say about anyone. I just don't see Milner as being a bad guy at all. I could see how Maharis could rub people the wrong way. He seemed very opinionated in his interviews, which is ok with me.

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Though he does, in this and Adam-12, play a rather arrogant, blunt personality, my friend who used to live near him when he lived in San Diego and bumped into him once in awhile in places like the gas station and grocery store, has said he was a very personable and friendly guy.

I know you are but what am I?

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For some interesting reading, check out http://www.ohio66.com/starring-george-maharis/. Although that link mostly concerns George Maharis, it does offer some information about Martin Milner.

Below are some claims I found about Maharis/Milner relationship on the internet:
- George and Martin did not like crowds;
- Martin did not like fans approaching him;
- George was surprised that Martin received top billing even though George had never heard of Martin before they were cast to star in Route 66;
- When George was in the hospital with hepatitis, not only did Martin never visit him, Martin never sent him a get well card. (my comment: Yes it is true that Martin was busy at this time traveling all over the country filming episodes, but I believe he, or a family member, had time to send a card or a gift or made a telephone call).
- During the filming of this series, not only did George spend a long time in the hospital and recuperating after his discharge, but he also continued to promote his singing career with interviews and television appearances. Route 66 producers were worried that this active promoting would affect his recuperation.
- George had an over-bearing and aggressive personal agent that limited his off-work access with production staff and their support personnel. He eventually had to fire her.

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For some interesting reading, check out http://www.ohio66.com/starring-george-maharis/. Although that link mostly concerns George Maharis, it does offer some information about Martin Milner.

Below are some claims I found about Maharis/Milner relationship on the internet:
- George and Martin did not like crowds;
- Martin did not like fans approaching him;
- George was surprised that Martin received top billing even though George had never heard of Martin before they were cast to star in Route 66;
- When George was in the hospital with hepatitis, not only did Martin never visit him, Martin never sent him a get well card. (my comment: Yes it is true that Martin was busy at this time traveling all over the country filming episodes, but I believe he, or a family member, had time to send a card or a gift or made a telephone call).
- During the filming of this series, not only did George spend a long time in the hospital and recuperating after his discharge, but he also continued to promote his singing career with interviews and television appearances. Route 66 producers were worried that this active promoting would affect his recuperation.
- George had an over-bearing and aggressive personal agent that limited his off-work access with production staff and their support personnel. He eventually had to fire her.

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I have to wonder about this:

"George was surprised that Martin received top billing even though George had never heard of Martin before they were cast to star in Route 66;"

How many people had heard of George Maharis before he was on Route 66??
Maharis had worked on some episodes of Naked City, so he was known to Bert Leonard, but surely Martin Milner had better acting credentials and a longer list of credits.

As I recall, the wonderful Naked City episode "Death of Princes" featuring Maharis as boxer Tony Becalis, and the Route 66 pilot "Black November," premiered the same week, so Maharis couldn't have been known to the general public for "Death of Princes" before it was decided who would get top billing on Route 66.

To me, Milner deserved top billing. For one thing, the Corvette was Tod's car; Buz was kind of a sidekick. For another thing, (my opinion) Milner was the better actor, although Maharis clearly had more charisma, a quality often more valued than acting.

I don't much care whether Milner was a nice guy or not. I admire his acting. On screen, he and Maharis were great together.

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Thanks for your comments about Starring George Maharis. I really have to get to work on replacing that preview with the entire story, but for now I have a few additional comments to add to your observations.

Technically, Marty was not filming all over the country while George was in the hospital. George was admitted to St. John's hospital in Santa Monica just after filming There I Am, There I Always Am on Catalina Island. The four episodes that were filmed during George's month-long stay were all shot within a few miles of Santa Monica: Between Hello And Goodbye, A Feat Of Strength, Hell Is Empty, All The Devils Are Here and From An Enchantress Fleeing. The other thing to note that is subtle, but important, is that George was admitted on April 1st and filming of the next episode did not begin until the 6th. There were five full days of down time while Marty was in the area and you can probably imagine that the first few days after admittance to a hospital with a serious illness should be a cause for great concern among friends. To be fair though, Marty's son, Stuart, was just one month old at this time and I suspect that his primary concern was to spend as much time as possible at home with the family before hitting the road again. I don't have any confirmation of this suspicion of mine, but I believe that the birth of his son was the primary reason Marty was not featured in There I Am, There I Always Am.

Regarding the billing issue: As you know, Route 66 was originally envisioned as a half-hour series with George, despite his appearances on Naked City a relative unknown on television, as the star. It ended up as an hour-long series starring Milner, who had 13 years of film and television credits. Further, George's contract which was signed in November 1959 does explicitly state that Milner will be given top-billing. My theory is that from the time Bert Leonard and Stirling Silliphant conceived the idea of Route 66 with George as its star until production actually got under way they started thinking in terms of more appeal to the networks hence the addition of someone with more credits. The fact that George didn't know of Milner at the time is not surprising. Marty did work regularly in films with the likes of John Wayne and Henry Fonda, but with only a few exceptions he always played bit parts and was not known to many outside the industry. There is no question that Route 66 was originally conceived as a starring vehicle for George, but the expanding vision of Leonard and Silliphant changed that. I can understand George's disappointment. For what it's worth, he agrees with my theory.

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After reading an interview that George Maharis gave in 2007 and recently listening to a radio interview he gave two years ago, I really think the rumors about his working relationship with Milner and any desires to leave the series were just that: rumors. Milner did say in an interview that he wasn't great friends with Maharis off-screen -- that they didn't have much in common (part of that may have been to Maharis being gay and Milner being married with kids at that time) but that they had a decent working relationship. He did say he had more in common with Glenn Corbett. But as far as being a jerk, I've only ever read favorable comments from fans that met him and people that worked with him. But...everyone is human and everyone has their "off" days, too. It must have been tough lugging a young family all over the country.

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After reading an interview that George Maharis gave in 2007 and recently listening to a radio interview he gave two years ago, I really think the rumors about his working relationship with Milner and any desires to leave the series were just that: rumors. Milner did say in an interview that he wasn't great friends with Maharis off-screen -- that they didn't have much in common (part of that may have been to Maharis being gay and Milner being married with kids at that time) but that they had a decent working relationship. He did say he had more in common with Glenn Corbett. But as far as being a jerk, I've only ever read favorable comments from fans that met him and people that worked with him. But...everyone is human and everyone has their "off" days, too. It must have been tough lugging a young family all over the country.


George Maharis sounded great in that radio interview, and I love that he cleared things up by stating that he and Martin Milner got along just fine. They weren't close friends off-screen but they had a pleasant working relationship. Maharis seems to have fond memories of Milner. I don't doubt that Milner had more in common with Glenn Corbett and I feel sorry for Corbett because he had such big shoes to fill and the writing didn't do him any favors.

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