when johnny says something like "your dad will beat the daylight out of you i kind of wish he would" when they are under the bridge and the police car passes over them. What was that?! He wanted the woman carrying his child to be beat?! Am I the only one shocked by that? And she didn't say anything...
shareHe actually said, "your dad will beat the daylights out of me (not the girl)and I kind of wish he would". Does that help?
shareok sorry, yes that makes more sense. I thought he might have said that but the thing is I just saw in on TCM and since it's late I had the volume really low and was watching it with captions. THAT is what the captionsa said, it didn't make sense to me but usually the captions on TCM are reliable, and the entire movie seemed to have accurate captions.
shareI just watched it and I could have sworn he said, "you" and not "me." My jaw dropped. I interpreted it to mean maybe he wanted her to lose the baby.
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He said "me". I've seen this movie a minimum of 15 times.
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Well that settles it then. Thanks. :)
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Movie girl: You have seen it a lot of times too? I have seen it (since the 70's when I was in my teens) about 10 or 12 times and just the other night on a VHS I made in the early 80's. And I am sure that he meant himself - he feels guilty and does wish her father would beat him up!
Does it ring a bell that the scenes are missing that when John's boat capsizes and he Molly are stuck all night outside on the island. Helen believes the worst and calls in a doctor for hysterical and terrified Molly to be checked to see if she had sex with John. Of course she had told her mother the truth, but was was not believed. Have you seen it with those scenes? We really get a true picture of the insensitive Helen who is truly hateful toward her daughter. - because she is growing up into a beautiful young teen.
Movie girl: You have seen it a lot of times too? I have seen it (since the 70's when I was in my teens) about 10 or 12 times and just the other night on a VHS I made in the early 80's. And I am sure that he meant himself - he feels guilty and does wish her father would beat him up!
Does it ring a bell that the scenes are missing that when John's boat capsizes and he Molly are stuck all night outside on the island. Helen believes the worst and calls in a doctor for hysterical and terrified Molly to be checked to see if she had sex with John. Of course she had told her mother the truth, but was was not believed. Have you seen it with those scenes? We really get a true picture of the insensitive Helen who is truly hateful toward her daughter. - because she is growing up into a beautiful young teen.
Love how you bothered to use that spoiler alert thingy while the one who started the thread explicitly said the girl was pregnant!
I wish more people used it!
Anyway, it does sound like "me", but if you play the movie real slow, it is actually a "you" indeed.
Glorybr: Re: "your dad will beat the daylight out of you I kind of wish he would" ...
The logical thing to say would be "beat the daylights out of ME (because he's feeling guilty for the pregnancy). BUT, I just rewatched the movie with subtitles on TCM and that's exactly what Johnny said. I think Troy misspoke; he kind of mumbled the "you," and the subtitles just mirrored what he said. So you were right!
Movie girl: I thought John meant her dad would beat him! Not her. It does seem he means her. And she does not say anything. It would be better the other way like you said. I do think it looked that way in the book. After all, her dad would then be defending his daughter's honor.
shareThat confused me, too. I don't think Johnny was smart enough to want her to get beaten so that she'll lose the baby, even though he referred to the baby as a baby and she called the baby 'it'.
Something else that I think was very odd is the way Johnny waves to Molly from his bedroom window. He does a kind of chop thing with his hand that reminded me of Frank Burns in M*A*S*H. He tells Hawkeye and Trapper that he wants to be saluted more, then he does this chop thing with his hand.
She did it! She did it! The lady with the grape!
Movie girl: I just saw your comment here. I saw the movie when I was an early teen on TV and at the time (and of course it might have been wrong) that Johnny meant that he wished that Molly's dad would be the daylights out of him! Not Molly. Also, he really loved Molly. He was conflicted. I didn't think he wanted her to lose the baby. He felt jointly guilty about it all.
You see, I just found the book in an old bookstore not long ago and in the book it seems clearer that Johnny wanted Molly's dad to let him have it. He was quite angry with himself for not restraining himself and respecting Molly more. He felt very guilty at that point.
It's a very good film. Somehow, the love story doesn't quite come through altogether, but the acting was sincere and I liked Sandra very much too as Molly. Her mother was really difficult to handle and as the movie goes on, we find that her mother had been that way too. Constance Ford acted the part of the stuffy and repressed mother very ably.