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A different idea about Catherine's memories


Apologies in advance for ignorance and far-fetched interpretations (I haven't read the play, nor seen the film in its entirety in decades, though I just saw the ending scenes on TCM), but I think given her already fragmented mental state, Catherine's memories of Sebastian's death/murder/killing are more a result of her mind's attempt to connect and make sense of a series of disturbing sensory impressions than a totally accurate account of what occurred. Shimmering heat, blinding white light, discordant noise; crowds of unpleasant, clamoring people; Sebastian's ill health and over-reactions to the least occurence; the frantic racing through claustrophobic alleyways ending in unstoppable mob violence, the sight of Sebastian's nude body beaten and broken on the pavement and the wild animal sounds of the frenzied youths........... The mind tries very hard to make sense out of nonsense; I think she was so overwhelmed by this awful series of images that her "story" was the only way she could make it all hang together. Then, of course, this terrifyingly real false memory became all she actually could recall of what happened. The cannabalism is part of this unreality (any mention of blood??), in that it is a greater taboo than homosexuality and therefor conveys a greater sense of the shock Catherine experienced; she was certainly not shocked by Sebastian's homosexuality even if she could not (or would not) articulate it, but seeing someone murdered certainly is a shock, especially for a fragile mind.

The tip-off for me was the several skeleton images in the memory montage. They're too obvious and heavy-handed to be anything other than a clue that this "memory" isn't all that real.

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I just finished watching it on TCM and ... THAT WAS EXACTLY MY INTERPRETATION TOO. Like you, I was tipped off by the skeletal images -- especially the "woman" in the shroud. One may argue that there really were skeletons mounted on the hillside but there's no way a shrouded skeleton can suddenly turn into a woman.

The entire movie was nonsensical psychobabble and this dream sequence was just more of the same. It reminded me of the equally pretentious and ridiculous dream sequence in Hitchcock's Spellbound.

My guess is that Sebastian was a gay pedophile who was eventually killed by a mob. Catherine was so shocked by the extent of his sexploits -- and the violence of his death -- that she repressed her memory of events. This view of gays as pedophiles corresponds well with the 1950's [mis]understanding of homosexuality.

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Responding to posts from 7 years ago. You're certifiably insane.

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Yet two days later I'm your only reply.

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My award is seeing you talking to yourself like the nutcase you are.

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Ever get any replies, whacko?

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I agree with you, and you deserve a reply.

-Dad, who's that?
-Oh, that? One of my patients. He's...sick.
-Will he live?
-It's looking grim.

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I think that what Catherine reported was exactly what happened. It's very fashionable to dismiss stories that seem outlandish as 'false memories', but false memories are things that people get talked into by others. Nobody talked Catherine into anything -- I noticed the doctor was very careful not to. As a matter of fact, Catherine was trying desperately to report what really happened, and everybody was trying to shut her up so as not to tarnish Sebastian's pristine reputation. They didn't want it to come out that he had this whole secret life, especially the part about his mother and Cathy procuring for him. Cathy was struggling with her own inhibitions about revealing these things, since the family norm was total silence and self-deception. She had grown up with this image of the pure, chaste poet Sebastian, and then to find out that this is what he was really like, it's no wonder she had trouble talking about it but at the same time wanted and needed to.

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