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The significance of the color white


White dominants the film. White beach, white bathing suit, white sun, Sebastian's white clothes.

I'm interested in anyone's views as to the significance of all this pervasive white.

Thanks.

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I think the use of white was more allegorical. Hepburn uses the term "pure" and "purity" at least once. I think that the white is symbolic of the purity that was being projected for Sebastian, but only covered what was going on underneath.

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Agreed. As it is traditionally accepted that white is the symbol for purity and good in the written work, it is the exact opposite in this movie. It is associated with all things dark and evil, while darkness is a good and decent thing. Catherine describes how her cousin allowed her to change into a dark and decent swimsuit after he was finished with her white swimsuit lure.

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Yes, and Hepburn refers to her son as being celebate. She sure liked to THINK he was pure. In addition to a false purity, I think the white can also mean a bleaching out of the colors of life, realism, and truth, with truth being "blanched out" and glossed over, as it were. TW uses similar symbolism of light and dark in A Streetcar Named Desire and even has the lead female named Blanche. Watch that film and make a note of the use of light and shadow - it's brilliant.

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Sebastian thought he saw the face of God. Wearing white would be appropriate.

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Here is something I don't get.. he used the women to attract men and then HE had sex with them If a guy was gay, he wouldn't be attracted to the women - or did they have sex for the money and not homosexuality?

I know it has nothing to do with white - just made me think of it here

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Yes, I never got that part either. What is the point in attracting a lot of straight men who were lusting after a beautiful woman? The only way that might have worked would be if his mother, Violet Venable would have "left" and "gotten a room" with a gentleman caller leaving numerous, over-stimulated straight men that Sebastian could offer compensation. Now honestly, in the timeframe this story was told, what do you think the men's response would be? Violence, pure and simple. I really have doubts that such a scheme would have worked for him sexually, but it sure gave a cautionary warning about over-stimulation to the movie-goers of the 50's.

Then again, people with heart conditions really shouldn't have sex, should they? Heart patients shouldn't be taking Viagra and the like, I've seen the warnings on TV commercials. Wouldn't Sebastian be aware his heart couldn't take it!

Could it be that Sebastian was looking for his own death, was looking to be murdered like the sea turtles and recreating the situation he witnessed on the beaches in the Galapagos Archipelago? Could he have invited and planned for his own death? Suicide by gaybashing?

Tired of life and aware that his mother was too old to over-stimulate and disappoint the huge crowd he needed to recreate this "face of God", he used Elizabeth Taylor's character {Catherine) and received the death he had dreamt about? Maybe Violet Venable KNEW what Sebastian was after and WOULDN'T do the dirty work, and Catherine, not knowing the sick death Sebastian desired, provided it for him unwittingly.

Maybe Sebastian was in fact pure and chaste like Violet implied. Maybe the surrounding natives really did want some food to eat or were tired of his mini-molestations for money. Or maybe even Sebastian's witty, colorful friends were all the physical attatchment he required. But it seems the only thing we can be absolutely sure about is that the mental status of Sebastian Venable was, without question, one of an insane but monetarily empowered man that couldn't go on in his limited inner world.

When Sebastian has met his end does any viewer miss him? I didn't. Throughout the film, as the I came to know him through others, I didn't like him, did you? He was annoying!!! His characteristics and alleged charm and humor and habits and taste bugged the fudge out of me! And if you are like me, you'll feel more compassion for the freshly-hatched sea turtles' death than you will for Sebastian at his untimely end. Sebastian's death and what brought it about interested me but I'm glad and relieved that he's gone. The sea turtles have my sympathy because they were trying to reach the ocean and live. Sebastian doesn't have my sympathy because he was going no place but trying to die. The only sorrow I feel over his death is that he got the spiritual adventure he had concocted for himself. You know that life isn't fair when people like Sebastian Venable always get what they want right up to the end.

There was too much of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ in Sebastian's choice of death for me to ever feel pity or sorrow for him and I don't find Sebastian a God worth consuming at any Last Supper.

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Something else about the color white: it was the traditional color of mourning for French royalty.

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Also death in some Asian countries.

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Why are you ascribing meaning to scenes that isn't there? Violet didn't know Sebastian wanted to die because Sebastian had no intention to do so. What predator wants to die in search for their prey? It also wasn't her intention to not accompany Sebastian. She had had a stroke, and Sebastian didn't want her to accompany him, she wasn't of suitable age.

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I got the feeling that the fact that Sebastian deliberately targeted straight men by using Aunt Vi (and later, Catherine) as decoys. Catherine said Sebastian became terrified when the young boys rushed the fence where they were having lunch -- he recognized some of the young men as having been "procured" for him earlier. I surmised from this that he brought the men in and then either liquored them up or offered them money for sexual favors, not caring that they were likely humiliated by what he did. If he had selected homosexual men they would not have been bent on revenge like the young men in Cabeza de Lobo.

Also, Catherine stated that he viewed people as like "items on a menu". "Fed up with brunettes", "famished for blondes", "that one looks appetizing", which means he was objectifying his targeted subjects, not seeing them as someone with feelings, merely someone to satisfy his desires, no matter whether they were gay themselves or not. So it is ironic that someone who referred to his objects of desire using words like "appetite" and "fed up" and "famished" met his end the way he did.

Life's a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death!

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Since Melville is mentioned in the movie, I think the best way to interpret the color white is to remind you all of a chapter in his epic novel, Moby Dick. The chapter 42, The Whiteness Of The Whale.

That chapter can be read on this link:
http://www.classicreader.com/book/309/42/

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I reminded of another film called "Oh Dad Poor Dad Mom's Hung You In The Closet And I'm Feeling So Sad". The mother in both that and SLS "protects" her son's purity but in reality is sexually repressing him. Sebastian and the son in the other movie both bust out sexually with disastrous results.

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