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If Warnley is Bradford, what is Dufton?


You can figure out pretty early on that the movie's setting is either Leeds or Bradford. Shooting location was Bradford, as this link makes clear...
http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/bradford__district/100_years/1958.html

However, it was made in 1958, with mostly contemporary clothes and hairstyles, and this makes for some confusion. At the time, John Braine's novel was well known. Most viewers understood that the story was set in the latter 1940s, and probably weren't bothered by the updated costume design, since filmmakers in those days were seldom faithful to the style of recent past (perhaps because 40s styles seemed so depressing in the 1950s?). Viewing it for the first time today, most people have to stop and figure out why ex-POW Joe Lampton (Harvey) is only 25 years old more than a decade after the war. Another oddity is that when Joe goes back to visit his forlorn hometown of Dufton, he seems to be transported back to the past, with a grubby little girl playing in the wartime house rubble, and his aunt and uncle living in a way that makes you think of George Orwell's description of the Wigan miners in the 30s.

The contempt with which the Warnley burghers regard Dufton is a subtler anachronism. By the late 50s, the Warnleys of the North were losing most of their old prosperity, while the Welfare State had given the Dufton inhabitants something of a leg up.

It would be nice to remake the film, setting it clearly and properly in 1946 or 7.

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I watched the film again this week. It's one of my favorites. I was born a working-class Londoner in 1950 and can relate to it a lot. I agree that it is an excellent movie but perhaps one that younger people can't relate to.

I've always noticed the time-lag you mention. I suppose you just have to go with it but I do wonder what the makers of the film were thinking.

I always liked LH as an actor very much and don't understand why the critics so disliked him. Even on the DVD, the biography mentions he worked as a male prostitute while getting started as an actor. Is that really necessary? Do I care? No, I don't. But I do believe he was a better actor than is generally thought. I have Manchurian Candidate DVD too. He gave a great performance.

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in response to margot, no its not bradford but was filmed in halifax close though my mother was an extra in the film , she worked at the factory joe lampton was seen outside . regards

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Bradford is the site of most of the location work - including the "Dufton" scene where the temporarily returning Lampton flicks his cigarette into a puddle in the factory yard. During the sixties I attended grammar school in the city (John Braine had been a pupil at the same school some years earlier) and can identify where many scenes were shot.

In Braine's novel, Warnley is probably based on Bingley some five miles to the west (and upwind!) of Bradford.I believe the author worked in the library there for a short period. Bingley did have textile mills, but sheltered by the southern slopes of Ilkley Moor, had "leafy" areas too and would have been regarded as socially aspirational at the time.

Dufton is more problematic but I would suggest was based on towns such as Batley or Dewsbury that specialised in the production of "shoddy" ie recycled wool. This would be mixed with pure wool fibres and dyed before weaving - which would explain Alderman Brown's trading links with the town. Although shoddy woollens were highly profitable there was a definite pecking order in the wool towns of the old West Riding, and places such as Bingley whose business was in worsteds would be far nearer the top. An alternative "Dufton" might be found in any one of the steel and engineering towns of South Yorkshire that for obvious reasons received far more attention from the Luftwaffe during the Second World War.

Ruthlessly exploitative behaviour is laid bare in both book and film - ironic really since Braine was very much a man of the political right. Since the eighties it has almost come to be seen as a good. A remake of this excellent film is long overdue!

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No remakes, please. Who could ever replace Simone Signoret?

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I agree. No remakes! Can you imagine it? The action would be moved to small town America with two Americans in the lead roles - no doubt pretty young things to appeal to teenagers with the attention span of a gnat (and brains to match). Nothing against Americans but I'm sick to death of remakes always being changed to suit American audiences. Have they no imagination beyond their own lifestyles & experiences? A prime example of this is the remake of The Wicker Man - and what load of twaddle compared to the much superior original. So no, no remake!!

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I was very confused by the chronology, too. PoW my arse!

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There is a scene in which Joe receives a letter in reference to employment in Dufton(Mr. Brown arranged it to get rid of him), and this letter was dated May 1947.

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Absolutely correct, proving that there are no anachronisms and that the film is indeed set a couple of years after the war. Great film incidentally.

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No remakes, please. Who could ever replace Simone Signoret?


I agree about no remakes, however "Alice" is not French in the original novel, so no replacement of SS would be appropriate

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Margot
Seven years after you asked the question, this article from 2006, based on an interview with his wife may give you the answer.

"Braine was born in a small terraced house off Bradford's Westgate in 1922, and moved to Thackley when his father got a job at Esholt Sewage Works. Thackley was a grim satellite of industrial Shipley, just the sort of place his main Room at the Top character Joe Lampton came from, "where the snow seemed to turn

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/around-yorkshire/local-stories/john-braine-s-fall-from-the-top-1-2397027

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