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The remake of "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet," with John Lithgow, is just as good as the original


Anyone agree?

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Agree overall, up until the appearance of the second Gremlin, in which it soon becomes apparent that the Gremlin in the remake is magnitudes more scary than the original (which more or less looks like some goofy looking dude in a bunny suit, minus the ears).

It’s understandable that we didn’t have the special effects technology available at the time, but despite this, some of the earlier Sci Fi shows showcased some rather decent effects on occasion. Take the space creature from The Outer Limits, in the episode titled “The Galaxy Being.” That was pretty impressive for the time, and not all that bad even by today’s standards.

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I also love the monster in "It Crawled Out of the Woodwork"; it's scary to this day.

Bravo to the remake's director, George Miller, for confining his monster mostly to the shadows. For as impressive as the remake's monster is keeping its features never entirely visible renders it even more dread-inducing still; I'm not sure if the original's director, Richard Donner, would have improved his teletubbie by confining it to the shadows too -- but it wouldn't have hurt. Still, the original is tightly-made, suspenseful, and layered, emphasizing that it's not what's on the wing that's important it's what's going on in its protagonist's mind --his struggle to convince himself, and others, he's not hallucinating (he's just returned from a sanitarium, after all) -- that warrants our attention. Incidentally, while the remake has a better monster, it doesn't give its protagonist much of an internal struggle; instead, Miller's remake mostly confines itself to the surface -- which isn't necessarily reason to complain since thirty-plus years later this surface still makes for glossy, potent entertainment. I just miss the psychological aspect of the original and wish the remake might have delved into that aspect of the story a little more thoroughly.

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Good analysis AT. I suppose if I had to choose between the two protagonists, I think that I’d pick Lithgow over Shatner, as he genuinely appeared to be terrified, though Shatner did a fine job with it as well.

Agree that the original definitely holds up. But as you say, it certainly couldn’t have hurt to have kept that Spirit Halloween® Closeout Gremlin, that was in the original, more in the shadows 😀

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I agree. It's tension-filled, the effects are great, and Lithgow delivers a riveting performance. Far and away one of the best remakes of a classic episode.

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This movie also has the distinction of featuring prominently a child actor who isn't a total pain in the ass; in fact, she's quite amusing, especially when she utters my second favorite line in the segment: "You big fella you used to be a normal person" (my first, of course, being "There's a man on the wing of this plane!").

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agreed.

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Well as goofy as the Shatner's gremlin on the wing looked, I have to say it scared the s*** out of me when I was little. So strong tearing back the metal and fiddling with the engine and then looking back at Shatner watching as if to say ... "oh look what I found". And when he would just sort of "fly off" when someone else came by .. just creeped me out! But that one close-up when Shatner pulls back the curtin OMG, the actor in all that make-up and wooly suit still bothers me today and I love it, and of course you've got that terrific Black & White working for you too to enhance the scene! I was pleased with the "Twilight Zone Movie" gremlin remake, you couldn't quite see him with all the wind and rain but you could see him enough to appreciate this fabulous piece of art that he was. I think both gremlins are excellent. I love when he waves his finger at John just before he flies off and the fun part was John's eyes bulging out when he looks out and sees it - it's only for a split second but if you pause your recorder you'll catch it. I grew up with Shatner from "Thriller" and "Alfred Hitchcock" so love him in everything, but for the record, after having this wonderful gremlin experience, I make a point to never sit next to the wing when I fly lol.

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No, it's definitely not. In the original, Shatner had just been released from a mental health facility, which opened the story to the possibility that his mind was simply not well. This was reinforced by the look of the gremlin itself, which doesn't look real and moves in defiance of physics. As is often the case with TZ, it could be real or it could be a crazy person continuing a breakdown.

The remake removes everything I just outlined, the stuff that made the story work.

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i just watched all versions after bbc news showed the pope marrying a couple at 36,000 feet, i guess this far out twilight zone story just got some competition, right, most always my preferable twilight zone versions are the twilight zone radio dramas since they are often further developed from the tv series with some amazing extended narration, i guess they had about half a century to polish on the tv episodes, i share the common opinion about the 1980's tv series even though i was blown away by that before i had discovered the original 1950's show, the 1983 movie is really growing on me, it just bugs me how shallow it often appears, frankly i don't care how the monster looks, and to be fair i read that it was voted some place as part of scariest monsters, but probably my favorite version of this is after all the segment in the 1983 movie, changing him as single makes him more vulnerable and lithgow's intense playing just blows me away, of course the suspense if he's going to have another breakdown is lost in the movie since there he's in a state of panic straight off. in the radio version, one of the female passengers having just a few lines or so sounds identical to the woman sitting behind lithgow in the movie version of this. "it's a good life" is the only twilight zone story that's been in more twilight zone versions than this, and of course i love anthony, don't we all just love anthony? he's a good boy.



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