Give me a bayonet


Ok.....this has always made me wonder and maybe someone has a better idea than I do of what the real story was. When Diestl visits the wounded Capt. Hardenburg in the hospital, he asks him in confidence for a bayonet. When Diestl seems to object, he tells him it isn't for him but the man in the bed next to him who was a watchmaker and lost his hands. Then he shows Diestl how he practiced with the other wounded man how he would plunge the bayonet into his chest. Now my question is, was that Hardenburg's original intention? Was it to put the other man out of his misery and then after getting the letter from his wife about his going into a permanant hospital gave up and used the bayonet on himself? Or did he have it planned all along to kill the other man and then himself. I wonder since he told of his plans to go into politics, like he was thinking of a future and he convinced Diestl he wasn't thinking about suicide. It does look funny though when he says goodbye to Diestl like it is the last he will see him while he is still alive. I do love this movie and saw it when it was in the theater when I was a boy of about 5.

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The book may have a detailed explanation, but here's my take. At first I thought Hardenburg was sincere in wanting to kill the watchmaker and had no intention of committing suicide. After a while, I decided that Hardenburg had never intended to kill the watchmaker. He knew Diestl would never bring a bayonet for himself, so he concocted the story about the watchmaker to get Diestl's sympathy - and the bayonet.

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In the book Hardenburg is true to his word. He does get out of the hospital after getting the bayonet, but the murder of the other soldier is only implied.
Hardenburg kills himself later when he realizes his wife is disgusted with him. Originaly he had no knowledge of this when Diestl came to visit.

The movie is somewhat ambiguous on this matter. Personally I feel this is due to time constrictions of the movie. All subplots , however important, cannot be portrayed.

I urge you to read the book. If you liked the film, you will love Shaw's original work. I honestly believe it teaches an important lesson. A lesson that is perhaps to raw to be adequately presented in Fifties Hollywood cinema.

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I did read the book but it was so long ago it is now fuzzy in my mind. I think I read it back in 1972. Lot of water went under the bridge since then...I might go to Barnes and Noble and buy it again.

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I'd tend to agree with that.

I thought him sending him back to "talk to his wife" was more to get him out of the way and make him (Brando) think he had a reason to live etc.

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At first I thought it truly was the intention of the captain to mercy kill the watch maker but when Hardenburg gets back into the bed and asks one last time of Diestl if he will bring the bayonet, he asks in such a sad resigned voice, I knew he was really gonna use it on himself.

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