I am profoundly confused, I watched 12 angry men and it was a masterpiece, many of the films regarded as that are usually amazing, but this one was meeh, it wasnt terrible it was just average, I fail to understand the reasoning behind it being considered so great, I think it used to be underrated and everyone likes underdogs so they made it a very overrated film. Also The Lady Vanishes is underrated.
shareAside from the complex plot of Vertigo, the structure alone of the film is genius to me. It almost gives you an emotional vertigo while watching it - the first half is slow and drags along, then suddenly everything is unraveling before you and its over and you're in shock at the ending.
I think the reason it divides opinion so much is because it's one of those films you either 'just get' or you just don't. I fell in love with it the first time I saw it because I was so confused (and yet so fascinated) by the story as it went along. I had to watch it again.
You, a salty water ocean wave.
Knock, me down and kiss my face.
I thought it brilliant: The plot, the performances, the direction and the sly way Hitchcock managed to weave taboo themes such as sexual obsession and necrophilia into the story.
shareI agree with you. I don't get it. I love classic movies, and usually I'm in line with the majority, but this movie was beyond disappointing.
It was probably the most predictable movie I've ever seen. It was boring and drawn out on top of that.
This is one that will bewilder me for a long time. I'm rarely this far away from majority opinion.
I liked it much better when I was young and did not question the crazy plot. Today it seems excessively arty, ambiguous, and unfinished. I think Hitchcock got lost in his art and forgot where he was going.(the optional ending available today helps a little), It is definitely a "take or leave it film", it either works for you or it doesn't.
RSGRE
"It was probably the most predictable movie I've ever seen."
Oh please, shut up.
You, a salty water ocean wave.
Knock, me down and kiss my face.
RoyalAllure replied 3h ago
Oh please, shut up.
Calling a film that is infamous for being full of twists "predictable" is pretentious and you know it. Sit down and be quiet.
You obviously haven't watched any romantic comedies recently if you think Vertigo is an example of a predictable plot. Stop exaggerating.
You, a salty water ocean wave.
Knock, me down and kiss my face.
If the only movies you're able to find predictable are romantic comedies, all of which have the same plot, you need say no more. There's nothing else I need to know about you.
I'm sorry you don't have the intellect to figure out anything but the simplest of plots, but don't assume the rest of the world is as dense and clueless as you are.
Go find the hole you crawled out of, and curl up back inside. Down in the dirt with the worms and grubs is where you belong. You still won't be the most intellectual creature down there, but at least the rest of the world won't have to tolerate your foolishness.
I must say when I saw you describe Vertigo as "predictable", my first reaction was to scoff. I think you could show it to a thousand people for the first time and not one of them would guess the twist before it comes, half way through the movie. I would even venture to say it's impossible to foresee.
Like it or loathe it, "predictable" is not in any universe the word to describe Vertigo.
Of course actually trying to reason with you may be futile, as you seem to have severe anger issues. Your reaction to someone disagreeing with you over a 60 year old movie is laughably disproportionate.
No Guru, No Method, No Teacher.
He or she clearly has mental health issues.
You, a salty water ocean wave.
Knock, me down and kiss my face.
You're a a completely brain dead turd. I'm sorry your intellect is below average.
As for mental health issues, starting arguments with strangers because of your lack of intelligence would be an example.
I'm certain you won't comprehend, but you started an argument with me because I, personally, found it predictable. You believe this to be normal, intelligent, adult behavior? Don't accuse others of mental deficiencies, especially when yours are so clearly defined.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you honestly this stupid?
Replying sarcastically and idiotically is, of course, going to get an equivalent reply. Had you replied like a grown up, I'd return the favor.
What difference does it make if 1000 or 1,000,000 don't find it predictable? I did. It's all relative. From the instant he met with his old friend, the rest of the movie went as expected. If you didn't see it, fine. Why in the world does it bother you, and the other idiot, that I did?
Believe me or not, It's your choice. But why debate it? That's just moronic and childish. You may regularly come to a forum and lie, but normal people don't. What would be the point?
I found it predictable. How does that adversely affect your life?
It's art, so it's all mostly subjective. However from industry professional and technical perspectives, I'm sure there are many who can easily cite definitive reasons why it earns such a description.
Strictly from a film-goers perspective, I think the movie is "great" because the story is intriguing, immersing, suspenseful and emotionally challenging. The pace at which it's told adds to all of the above. The acting is superb even within an improbable set of circumstances. It evokes empathy for characters who are deeply flawed and for whom it's difficult to find sympathy. It resists the temptation to talk down to it's audience by avoiding superfluous details. Even though I'm ignorant to specific technical aspects of photography, camera angles, and lighting, I'm appreciative of how they're employed to their best advantage. Last but not least is it's score--hauntingly beautiful and brilliant.
I suspect that the film disappoints those the most who expect it to be a murder mystery or a suspenseful detective's "who done it". Obviously it's neither of those.
Vertigo, Psycho, North by Northwest and Rear Window all set standards for suspense that people take for granted today. I don't think you know.... Without Hitchcock's masterpieces, we wouldn't have had Chinatown, we wouldn't have had Jaws, we wouldn't have had Carrie, Untouchables, The Exorcist, James Bond; the building blocks for modern blockbusters. Why is Vertigo so great? Because it was 50+ years ahead of its time and it's still compelling and provocative... at least to me.
shareWell I kinda know... I have had years and years of film history, but then again, are we supposed to feel pity for these films only because they are old?, like maybe pity is not the right word but we are condoning terrible things just because they did it before, if we judge the film only for what it is, it is mediocre for todays standards, and frankly, I think Chinatown would exist anyways, Jaws was a *beep* accident, how about we kill Stephen King but not Hitchcok make Carrie. Disturbing opinion the one you have just dumb.
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