Watching this it occurs to me that you can see the many influences this film must have had upon Gene Roddenberry:
The viewers in the ships.
The costumes for the guards (shape and color).
Some of the architecture.
Sliding doors.
The trees in the hallways.
Lt. Turner even resembles Jeffery Hunter (Captain Christopher Pike).
The weapons bear some resemblance to the weapons in the pilot.
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"Spock's Brain" seems to take directly from this, from the plot down down to the high heels of the guards. Men are from Earth, women from Venus -- or "You are not Eyemorg!" indeed
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A friend of mine just gave me a copy of this flick -- I'm finishing it up now, first viewing -- I logged into IMDB just to make comment about there seeming to be strong similarities with this and the original Star Trek... I'm amused but of course shouldn't be surprised that I'm not the only one to have caught the similarities. I wouldn't say for certain that Roddenberry was influenced by this film unless I found a credible source somewhere, but it does seem that way.
Chauvinistic by modern standards, perhaps -- but bear in mind that this may have been a statement about the gender differences at the time ... which is to say that this element too may have influenced Roddenberry, as many (most/all) episodes of Star Trek were social commentaries.
Yeah ... I should make an IMDB'esq website called IHeartBadFilm.com, my site would be best pals with The Razzies -- too much work tho.
I'm not going to say that Roddenbury DIDN'T get ideas from this movie (I haven't seen it) but I'm going to say that most of the influence came from Forbidden Planet in which most of the props and costumes came from for this film.
shareSliding doors have been used in space films LONG before STAR TREK.
How do you like the flat TV screen almost 40 years before they came out?
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I wonder if the flat screens were a subliminal way of stressing that "movie" technology was the future, not that "old fashioned", curved screen TV! Don't forget that movies tried to offer what TV couldn't, like wide screen.
There were almost as many tropes in Sci Fi movies as westerns, many of the things are as common in 50's space operas as black hats, horses and six guns are in horse operas. The first time I saw Star Trek (ToS) I dismissed it as another 50's space opera, due to the background similarities. I also just noticed that similarity between Zsa-Zsa accen and T'Pau's
I wonder if the flat screens were a subliminal way of stressing that "movie" technology was the future
I also just noticed that similarity between Zsa-Zsa accen and T'Pau's.Both Celia Lovsky, the actress who played T'Pau, and Zsa Zsa Gabor were born in Austria-Hungary. On today's maps you will find that Ms Lovsky was born in Vienna, Austria, and Ms Gabor was born in Budapest, Hungary.
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I think a number of the "influences" you see here were the ones "borrowed" from the 1956 "Forbidden Planet" which Roddenberry acknowledged to be of some inspiration.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/
There were many less well known influences on Star Trek, for example Space Patrol (aka Planet Patrol), which had 3 main races, humans (who basically ran Space Patrol); pointy-eared, unemotional, logical Venusians; and temperamental, powerful Martians.
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Excellent point. I'd never seen that show.
BTW:
I noticed right after I posted my response that someone else had already pointed out the weapons and uniforms — and one of Altaira's dresses — borrowed from "Forbidden Planet". That'll learn me to skip reading the rest of the thread first.
(I can't help wondering who decided that Martians are warlike simply because Earthmen named their planet for the Roman god of war.)
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Surprised no one noticed/mentioned this: right in the beginning, there are several pictures on the wall. One is the solar system, another is the various layers of earth's atmosphere. The last, I'm not sure what it is exactly, but it shows some kind of trajectory (or something) with dotted lines. Looks just like the starfleet symbol.
shareAnd Scobby doo cartoon hiding in that hallway full of doors
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I also thought this movie bared a very similar resemblance to other sci fi film - " Forbidden Planet " from 1956 . The elaborate sets and special effects ( both audio and visual ) were almost exactly the same IMPO . I'm watching this movie for the very first time on the channel TCM ( Turner Classic Movies ) and an excellent film so far too . Thanks McQualude for your subject post .
I'm sorry. Maybe I'm just tired and didn't read what you said correctly. An excellent film? I would use the words fun, campy, cheesy, unintentionally funny, over the top, badly written, acted and directed, hysterical to describe this film but excellent...no way. It's a 'so bad it's good' type of film. I have it on DVD and have shown it to many people and they all loved it because of it's unintentional hilariousness, not for it being a well done film.
share" I'm sorry. Maybe I'm just tired and didn't read what you said correctly. An excellent film? I would use the words fun, campy, cheesy, unintentionally funny, over the top, badly written, acted and directed, hysterical to describe this film but excellent...no way. It's a 'so bad it's good' type of film. I have it on DVD and have shown it to many people and they all loved it because of it's unintentional hilariousness, not for it being a well done film. "
Hey SkaterDave just an old saying for you to learn in the near future here :
" If you have nothing nice to say don't bother saying anything at all . "
THE END !
Here's an old saying for you. If you can't hang with the adults go play with your toys. I'm paraphrasing a bit but you get the drift. If people only said nice things the world would be a joke. I wasn't insulting anyone I was disagreeing with him and surprised by what he said. Get over yourself little girl.
shareHow about "If you have to say something about the dead, say something good!"
"He's dead! Good!"