Forgettable Kurosawa Film


Hidden Fortress is the only Kurosawa film I have watched so far that I did not enjoy. The reasons I thought this Kurosawa film was lackadaisical:

1) Story very slow to unfold:
Only after a full hour does the characters journey to smuggle the princess to Hayakawa commence. The first hour is monotonous and mostly consists of Tahei and Matakashi annoyingly bickering with each other while wandering about an equally monotonous landscape. Even when the plot finally starts to unfold, nothing much happens. The action scenes are few, and the few present are apathetic. For example, in the duel between Makabe and Tadokoro the choreography is too apparent and the fight itself is very dull. But a lack of action can easily be overshadowed by intriguing characters. Unfortunately, Hidden Fortress lacks both.

2) Highly annoying characters:
I simply did not care for any of the characters. Tahei and Matakashi are the comic relief of the film, but after a while their ignorance and incessant bickering seizes being funny and starts being irritating. Princess Yuki is by far the most annoying character of the film, but the actress Misa Uehara is to blame. Her acting is completely awful! Her strident voice and stiff mannerisms is unbearable. Also, after that scene when she is crying, mourning the death of her decoy, it's no surprise that she didn't win any awards for best actress. She might have won a Razzie if it existed when the movie was made. Her acting was so "powerful" and "moving" that she made me cry when towards the end of the movie she sings a poignant song...I was crying from laughter, though. Mifune is also a disappointment in Hidden Fortress, but this is Kurosawa's fault. Mifune is too restrained as the obedient, loyal servant and doesn't display his terrific swordplay or justified arrongance as much as in his other roles. The best scene of the film is when Mifune finally releases the inner lion inside him and chases down and eliminates two guards on horseback. The prostitute/maid Princess Yuki rescues is also irritating. She should have let Matakashi and Tahei "have their way" with Princess Yuki. They drew sticks…It was fair and square. The butch prostitute should just have waited her turn.

3) Lack of a definite antagonist/threat:
At one point of the movie, Gen.Tadokoro (Susumu Fujita) appears to be the antagonist, but the viewer later finds out he is not. But during and before the duel, when I believed Tadokoro was the main antagonist, I thought that Fujita was badly cast. Fujita’s Tadokoro looked emaciated and is much older (or at least looks so) than Mifune. Judging on appearance and physique, I felt that Tadokoro did not pose much of a threat to Mifune’s Makabe and so, the little challenge he does provide during the duel was unrealistic. But the real antagonist of the film is the Yamana Tribe. But through out the movie Kurosawa depicts the army and its commanders as inept and craven. Therefore, the lack of any real menacing threat denigrated my concern for the characters, since I did not feel as if their journey was as dangerous as it was made out to be. Also, why was the Yamana Tribe necessarily bad? In the movie they are never shown to be corrupt, depraved or unjust. So what if they beheaded the decoy who they believed to be the princess; she is an enemy to them. And also, where in the movie does it depict the Princess' Akizuki tribe as being benevolent and kind-hearted? For all I know, she could be the evil one.

The whole effectiveness of the story relies heavily on the conditions that the viewer cares for the character, especially the well-being of the princess, which I did not; and also on the fact that the viewer perceives that the characters are in grave danger, which I also did not.
Therefore, I did not appreciate Hidden Fortress as much as other Kurosawa films. Only merit of this movie is that it "influenced" Lucas in his Star Wars saga. I place quotes on influence because it's not so much of an influence as it is a source pool from which Lucas exhaustingly siphons.

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Well, though I disagree with some of your assessments, at least you put down arguments, which is quite refreshing than the usual poster coming here and stating "this movie sucks", and yet offers us nothing what he or she did not like.

1) Story very slow to unfold:
Only after a full hour does the characters journey to smuggle the princess to Hayakawa commence. The first hour is monotonous and mostly consists of Tahei and Matakashi annoyingly bickering with each other while wandering about an equally monotonous landscape. Even when the plot finally starts to unfold, nothing much happens. The action scenes are few, and the few present are apathetic.


I think the beginning is to set up the two characters and their plight. They are not the most likable, but that's the way they were intended to be portrayed. Someone stated that Tahei and Matakishi were two of the most unusual characters put on film at that time. We can be sympathetic with their situation, but not sympathetic with them. It was very un-Hollywood. Which of course, it was their plight that Lucas borrowed for the droids situation in the first STAR WARS movie.

For example, in the duel between Makabe and Tadokoro the choreography is too apparent and the fight itself is very dull. But a lack of action can easily be overshadowed by intriguing characters. Unfortunately, Hidden Fortress lacks both.

I think it is one of the best fight scenes in Kurosawa's movies, and if it looked choreographed, remember, these are two generals with battle experience, and know how each other fights, so they realize that rushing it or over-do it against their worthy opponent is not the smart thing to do.

Princess Yuki is by far the most annoying character of the film, but the actress Misa Uehara is to blame. Her acting is completely awful! Her strident voice and stiff mannerisms is unbearable. Also, after that scene when she is crying, mourning the death of her decoy, it's no surprise that she didn't win any awards for best actress. She might have won a Razzie if it existed when the movie was made. Her acting was so "powerful" and "moving" that she made me cry when towards the end of the movie she sings a poignant song...I was crying from laughter, though. Mifune is also a disappointment in Hidden Fortress, but this is Kurosawa's fault. Mifune is too restrained as the obedient, loyal servant and doesn't display his terrific swordplay or justified arrongance as much as in his other roles. The best scene of the film is when Mifune finally releases the inner lion inside him and chases down and eliminates two guards on horseback. The prostitute/maid Princess Yuki rescues is also irritating. She should have let Matakashi and Tahei "have their way" with Princess Yuki. They drew sticks…It was fair and square. The butch prostitute should just have waited her turn.

Actually, that's the way the characters were meant to be played. Princess Yuki is a spoiled, feisty person who usually gets her way. And in the crying scene, remember, she was brought up as a samurai, and for her to cry in front of others would not have been the honorable thing to do, yet it sickens her to think that someone died in her place and eventually she gets overcome by emotion. Mifune is restrained and obedient, because his character is the definition of a loyal servant. He was to his late Lord and now his daughter, which of course she even chastises him for. Plus, the girl they picked, once she learned that she was the princess, she too, like Mifune had a sense of loyalty and wanted to protect her at all costs.

At one point of the movie, Gen.Tadokoro (Susumu Fujita) appears to be the antagonist, but the viewer later finds out he is not. But during and before the duel, when I believed Tadokoro was the main antagonist, I thought that Fujita was badly cast. Fujita’s Tadokoro looked emaciated and is much older (or at least looks so) than Mifune. Judging on appearance and physique, I felt that Tadokoro did not pose much of a threat to Immune’s Makabe and so, the little challenge he does provide during the duel was unrealistic. But the real antagonist of the film is the Yamana Tribe. But through out the movie Kurosawa depicts the army and its commanders as inept and craven. Therefore, the lack of any real menacing threat denigrated my concern for the characters, since I did not feel as if their journey was as dangerous as it was made out to be. Also, why was the Yamana Tribe necessarily bad? In the movie they are never shown to be corrupt, depraved or unjust. So what if they beheaded the decoy who they believed to be the princess; she is an enemy to them. And also, where in the movie does it depict the Princess' Akizuki tribe as being benevolent and kind-hearted? For all I know, she could be the evil one.

Before there was Toshiro Mifune, Kurosawa's main actor to portray adventurous samurai was Susumu Fujita. Though, he doesn’t have that dramatic knack that Mifune possessed, I still think the did a good job. Ultimately, he becomes the most sympathetic character in the movie, I felt. And he and Mifune, played each other off well. As for which tribe was the evil one, we are basically getting one side of the story, that's true, but the story is not about who was the more evil, but of young girl seeing situations and people, she would have never seen in her entire life. It was almost like a coming-of-age story, or a PRINCE AND THE PAUPER tale.

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oh comeone, I made one remark in jest amongst my serious analysis of the movie. Lighten up. Was only a joke.

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Yeah, come on Vetch, isn't rape humor your cup of tea??? [/sarcasm]

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the reasons he listed are exactly why i don't like this movie.

as for rape humor, whatever, it was obviously a joke.

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th1a90 wrote:

Also, why was the Yamana Tribe necessarily bad? In the movie they are never shown to be corrupt, depraved or unjust.

I guess you don't count attacking a neighboring clan, rounding up thousands of men to do hard labor, selling off women to serve as prostitutes, and punishing people by deforming their faces as being corrupt, depraved or unjust. Or maybe you were joking here too.

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It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but even when I wrote my review, (which was immediately after I finished watching the movie) I don't remember those things being mentioned. I'll take your word on it though. But even if it were so, that still does not make up for the fact that the Yamana army was portrayed as being incompetent and clumsy. Also, there was no "leader" character that organizes the army, and who essentially is the embodiment of evil. Such a character would have been a serious antagonist to Makabe and his companions, and would have made the danger of their journey more real and dramatic. For some reason this really annoyed me about the film. I have an identical criticism to the LOTR trilogies were in the second and third stories the orc army is lead by an eye on top of a tower. Oh no, "the eye" flashed its light on me! Yes, very frightening.

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I think you are right about me having expected too much of this movie. But, I mean, when it comes to Kurosawa, one always expects excellence.

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I have not. There are a lot of Kurosawa films I still have not seen, so I am sure that not all will be masterpieces, and so, I should lower my expectations. My friend was the one who first introduced be to Kurosawa's work via masterpieces such as Yojimbo, Seven Samurai, Sanjuro. So as a result, I have formed a heavily biased opinon on the standard of quality I expect when it comes to Kurosawa. But, Im sure that once I watch his full body of work, including his flops, I will accept the fact that Kurosawa is not impeccable, but on a positive note, I will be more appreciative of his masterpieces.

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Kurosawa has a lot of films, a lot of great ones, a lot of above average ones. But he does have flops(though his flops are amazing films to other director's flops). I like him so much at current I'm Kurosawa addicted right now. Itz gonna be hard to get off of it, and I'll be in the Japanese world for awhile lol.

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if you still into samurai films. i recommend Sword of Doom http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060277/

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I think some of the points made by the original poster are somewhat valid especially the lack of a leader of the villains and the villains being inept (especialy at shotting targets and being scared by a man on a horse!). No characters being likeable is also true but as was said later, that was the purpose of the movie. I did find it a little slow moving and there really weren't any really moving really-well acted scenes which most better Kurosawa films have. But, this is a good movie overall and I give it 8/10 which places it no. 272 on my all-time list (which includes about 30% foreign films) and 7th amongst Kurosawa's. I do rate Kurosawa as the 2nd best director of all time as 4 of his movies make my top 100 (8 - Ikuru, 22 - Rashomon, 29 - Seven Samurai, 81- - Ran). No. 1 is Hitch with 7 in my top 100.

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Agreed on the story being slow, the characters being annoying and the fact I also couldn't give a damn about those characters.

But really, the only Kurosawa film I've liked was Yojimbo - the rest are either boring/overly dramatic/cliche/redundant.

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seriously if you like yojimbo, you should see sanjuro, the unofficial sequel. it's a lot funnier and fast paced than yojimbo. and the final showdown is one of the coolest in any movie i've seen.

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