Jesus wept...


Had the misfortune to watch this yesterday afternoon and was left very let down by the hype. Drawn-out with poor acting and direction and complete a lack of real emotion.

I'm never going to get those 90 minutes back...


"The dead do not suffer the living to pass"
"You will suffer me"

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I pity you! This is one of the greatest movie musicals ever made and, along with West Side Story, the best use of location filming ever put onscreen in a musical. Not much of this was shot on the back lot at MGM, and Paris has never looked lovelier than it does in telling Colette's delightful tale, along with the remarkable work of Alan Jay Lerner, Frederick Loewe, Arthur Freed and Vincente Minnelli. This movie is a masterpiece, and it's a pity that you are not sensitive to how brilliant this is.

My recommendation is that you find a festering pile of garbage like the Police Academy series and sit through that sort of selfpindulgent pile inducing bleep instead, as it's probably more attuned to your taste.

You don't deserve a classic like this!

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West Side Story is a GREAT movie - the fact that you can compare the two astounds me! I thought the plot of Gigi was hackneyed, boring and to be honest not very well acted. I don't really see a need to get personal though - I was just saying (in stronger terms that I probably needed to, admitted) I didn't like it.

I'm not particulalry into Police Academy as it happens.
Now HITCHCOCK - he's the daddy...



"The dead do not suffer the living to pass"
"You will suffer me"

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West Side Story is merely a ripoff of Shakespeare..... minus all of the intelligence. I can't say I'm impressed by people who ripoff all authors' stories. It's an okay movie with decent music which I enjoy, but nowhere near as "adult" as Gigi.

WSS is for teeny boppers (or those of like intelligence).

Gigi is for the more mature, fully-adult mind.

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I'm sure, then, you're aware that Shakespare himself wrote almost no original stories, including Romeo and Juliet (which was based on at least two earlier renditions).

And West Side Story is considered to be one of the finest, and most challenging, examples of musical theater ever written, incorporating elements of ballet (the dance at the gym, the opening sequence) and opera ("A Boy Like That"/"I have a Love") as well as classic musical comedy ("Gee, Officer Krupke"). Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim wrote the score; Jerome Robbins choreographed it--all are considered indisputable giants of musical theater. Your assertion that West Side Story "is for teeny boppers (or those of like intelligence)" seems baseless--how can you back that up?

You can defend Gigi without attacking other musicals. And really, Gigi and West Side Story are not remotely comparable--they're completely different in style and scope.

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Exactly, CeeBeeGee...also that Shakespeare himself was not considered elite in his time. The masses could and did appreciate what he wrote, which seems to be the thing someone dislikes about WWS.

Personally, I think I have too much bloom. Maybe that's the trouble with me.

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But ... ? If you object to the 'ripping off' of another author's stories, then how can you like Gigi? It's not like Collette agreed to let someone trash her gorgeous novel. Just wondering how you justify it in this case.

Let slip the Determined Kitten of Doom!

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not to rub it in, but it was actually 111min you'll never get back, :)

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Yeah, yeah, it's a boring old musical. If you don't like musicals, chances are you won't like it. But if you dig in real deep, there is actual substance to the story. But like I said, if you don't like old musicals, this movie isn't for you.

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"But if you dig in real deep, there is actual substance to the story. "
please, could you be so kind so as to explain that to me?
I saw this film last year and I'd love to hear what you mean

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This movie takes the setting of turn-of-the-century Parisian attitudes towards coupling, and examines why we choose who we choose to live with; how we decide on committment or the lack of it; and the consequences of women passively doing what is expected of them by others, or making their own choices and asking men to abide by those choices.

We women today could learn a lot from this.

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okay, I don't like the film because I don't like musicals, but my grandma was watching this thing every single day and I was on the computer in the same room listening to it. So I had no choice but to dig deep and here's what I found.

Pushing all the singing aside, the story is pretty messed up. Here's part of a little slightly comical review I felt was somewhat necesary, with a few recent additions

Throughout the duration of the movie we are lead to believe that Gigi grows from an immature school girl, into a stunningly beautiful woman. The only problem is that upon closer examination, this doesn't really seem believable. No time frame is given for the change to occur, and we are never told Gigi's true age. One day she is dressed as a school girl playing in the dirt, and then all of a sudden she is wearing a beautiful dress and looks of age. But we never really know if she is of age. for all we know she could easily be 14 years old. Gaston is obviously much older. If this film were to be made by today's standards Gaston would be considered a dirty pedophile. All the more discomforting is the fact that Gigi doesn't seem to have much of a say in all of this. Her grandmother, aunt, and Gaston are the ones collaborating for Gigi as a love interest, and although this is explained to Gigi, it was never her idea nor her initial intention. Basically we're talking about an arranged situation for Gigi to become a so-called 'kept' woman as Gaston is seen referring to the subject as "business." Yes, business. And then their's Gigi's aunt, you wonder if she may have been a prostitute or Madam of some sort. She's all up on controlling Gigi's life without even talking to Gigi. She's all up on giving Gigi lessons on how to act lady like, later on Gaston sees her behaving this way and he can't stand it. It forces him to realize what he's getting her into.

Then there's Gaston's uncle, Honore Lachaille (Maurice Chevalier) who is not only the narrator of the story, but also plays a small part in it. He is a player to the fullest extent of the word, and although is in his elder years, he hasn't turned in his player's club card as of yet. He even at one point claimed to be in love with Gigi's grandmother, but quoted, "I was so much in love with you I wanted to marry you. Yes, it's true. I was beginning to think of marriage. Imagine: marriage, me! Oh no, I was really desperate! I had to do somethin, and what I did was the soprano!" That's right, you heard correct, he was so in love he didn't know what to do so he cheated. He also let's loose with other mind numbing comments such as when he remarks to Gaston that, "Gigi will keep you entertained for months!!"

I did actually enjoy watching Gigi parade around in in variety of sexy outfits, Leslie Caron was hot. Her character may not have been of age, but I'm sure she herself was at the time. And since the movie is set in France, it's french accents galore. Nothing adds to the beauty of a young woman than a french accent.

I find the film's music scenes take away from the story. All of this disturbing stuff of forcing a young girl into a situation she knows nothing about without knowing her interests is not really explored. but it is a musical, and I don't like musicals.

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Your point about the time frame is well-taken. It's unclear if Gigi "transformation into a woman" takes place over a period of months or years--and nothing makes this point more than Gaston's somewhat creepy song when he's going on and one about how much of an infant she is (she's in her playpen, sucking her thumb' etc.), and then sings about how her dress "clung" to her. Ew! Is she an "infant" or a woman?

Although I can enjoy Gigi, it is definitely a guilty pleasure, and one to be appreciated in its context (takes place in the early 1900s when such relationships were afr more accepted, and the movie came out in the '50s)--there are so many times when older men are extolling the beauty/allure/pleasures of girls (literally, little girls in the case of Honore's first song). Yes, things were different then and thank goodness they've changed, because "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" is just-this-side of dirty-old-man. When an established playboy is looking at a little girl, he should not be thinking about how delightful it's going to be when she turns into a woman. If any actor other than Maurice Chevalier had played it (let's imagine, oh, say, Roman Polanski), the song never would've worked, but Chevalier had charm by the bucket, so he sold it.

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Live4Coffee, it really amazes me that any person feels the need to come on to any message board and use language and descriptions such as you have. The only reason I can think is that you want people to disagree with you. Then when someone does and does it on your terms you ask them why they are getting personal. Your point in doing this is what exactly? Amusement? Your sign-off might say it best - "You will suffer me" .

You don't like the movie. Fine. Give it a bad rating.

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I saw Westside Story and I thought it was boring. I liked this movie better becuase I thought the love story between Gigi and Gaston was more interesting than the usual 'romeo and juliet' romance that has been done so many times.

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So, why didn't you just stop watching if you knew you weren't appreciating it?

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Because I was visiting my fmaily and it was still marignally more entertaining than conversing with them to be honest...

I admit Elyrest, I probably went a bit OTT with my criticism and for that I apologise. However, my attack was on the movie, not on the people who liked it.


"The dead do not suffer the living to pass"
"You will suffer me"

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I would remind all that Gigi won 9 Oscars. A crapy movie might win one but a crapy movie doesn't win 9. Musicals are not to everyone'e taste and i know people that can't stand Hitchcock (the poor souls). Gigi however, is a wonderful film. It stands with An American in Paris and Singing in the Rain as the best musicals of al time. Chevallier must be seen to be appreciated. The man was magnificent. Caron is extraordinarily beautiful and worth watching for no other reason.

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I like musicals. I don't like Hitchcock. I am not into horror films or slasher films. And most movies today have too much violence, sex, and foul language in them. Not my cup of tea.

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