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Even for a dumb flick, this is ridiculous! (SPOILER ALERTS)


Okay, I just saw ZOMBIES OF MORA TAU for the first time (!), in the new Sam Katzman box set. At first I thought this would be one of those enjoyably dopey movies we love to watch, but most of it is so ineptly done that it's almost NOT bad enough to be good! Some examples:

The zombies. They're just there: no suspense, no tension, no mystery slowly revealed to the audience, nothing -- just, oh look, zombies: in plain sight, right off the bat, no big deal, and everybody just accepts their existence with little debate. Lousy direction and writing, for starters. And c'mon -- all 10 of 'em just keep getting up out of their open boxes in the crypt, no one has ever tried to seal it up or destroy it? And how did they become zombies in the first place? Why is keeping the diamonds away from everyone so critical?

Africa? Zombies are almost always associated with Haiti. And "Mora Tau" sounds like some place in the Pacific. And not a black face anywhere. Not even the setting is credible.

The hero. Jeff Clark (played by Gregg Palmer) weaves back and forth -- at times, greedy, opportunistic, selfish, indecisive, even cowardly; in between, by turns brave, noble, self-sacrificing, generous. A thoroughly confused and senseless characterization -- no sense of development or audience sympathy, just a character who behaves according to which scene is being filmed.

The gorgeous and underrated Allison Hayes. As Mona, she's captured by the zombies (off-screen), and when the guys find her she's lying on the floor of the crypt. Jeff feels her pulse and says she's dead; when she arises as an obvious zombie, they think she's "all right" even though she doesn't speak, stares straight ahead, and has to be led back to the house. Grandma Peters declares she's dead; she's cold to the touch and still shows no signs of life. But later on, Jeff and Jan go to her room (where she sits helpless in bed, intimidated by all those anti-zombie candles), and Jeff says he thinks she's "recovering". From being DEAD??! (By the way, could they have made Allison's breasts stand up any higher, more firmly or more pointedly in that shot of her lying flat on the crypt floor?)

The ending. Why does dumping the diamonds overboard from the launch, in a few feet of water, mollify the zombies and allow them to disintegrate in peace? How is this an acceptable fate for the loot compared to having the rocks in a chest in the shipwreck? Couldn't someone as easily (more easily) dive for them, scattered around in a very small spot, as go looking for them in a deeper shipwreck? And as only Captain Peters was shown disintegrating at the end, can we presume that all the zombies -- including Allison Hayes -- dissolved too? How come none of the other victims of the zombies over the years turned into zombies themselves, except Ms. Hayes? (Okay, just take one look at her and you'll know why.)

The music. It's all stock music anyway, but who chose the musical passages underlying each scene? Almost every time violent action or shocking scenes occur, as far as the music accompanying the scene goes, it's like being in an elevator -- weak, unclimactic blandness. A movie's supposed to have music cued to the scenes unfolding on the screen. Most of the music laid throughout this film is a continuous, sleep-inducing, undramatic let alone unexciting, string of blah. Listen closely, next viewing.

There's more, but that's plenty for now. Just a little more care and this film could have been a creepy, albeit very minor winner. No wonder Katzman had such a low reputation, and Edward L. Cahn's listless direction doesn't help anything either.

But on a good note: a very effective performance (the only one, except maybe for Ms. Hayes) by Marjorie Eaton, in old-age make-up (she was 56 in real life), as Grandmother Peters. (Oh, yes: although she's mentioned as being Jan's grandmother at several points throughout the movie, when she herself greets the expedition members she introduces Jan as her "great-granddaughter". Obviously E. L. Cahn didn't want to waste any film in re-shooting the scene.)

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Oh, any movie like this has its moments, and its share of goofy fun. I just wish it hadn't been so poorly, sloppily done. THE WEREWOLF, in the same set, was surprisingly good and even scary.

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You're watching the Sam Katzman boxset, yet this film bothers you? --LOL--

Oh boy! --LOL--

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You have a point. How low we sink.

We have met Sam Katzman, and he is us.

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I bought the box set primarily for the GIANT CLAW cause I love that space turkey (and now I get to count how many times the actors say "flying battleship").. and to a lesser extent, THE WEREWOLF

But I enjoyed CREATURE WITH AN ATOM BRAIN since I had never seen it before and as far as the ZOMBIES OF MORA TAU, well, uh, ya see, uh....ALLISON HAYES WAS HOTTTT!!!!! Now that I have this and my FIFTY FOOT WOMAN dvd..(HAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY!!!) Where is my HYPNOTIC EYE dvd?

HUH?

"You like my face? Well, YOU CAN HAVE IT!!!" -Allison Hayes from "Hypnotic Eye" just before she does something really ghastly.

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Yeah, I bought it for CLAW too, although I'd seen ATOM BRAIN a few times and liked it well enough. I'd never seen either ZOMBIES or WEREWOLF and was pleasantly surprised by the latter (as I wrote on its site). But this one..........!

But, yes, Ms. Hayes was magnificent, though not even her scene lying "flat" (you should pardon the expression) on the crypt floor comes close to her costumed rampage in 50-FT. WOMAN. Too bad her career was so wasted (and that she died so young). I'd like to see a release of THE UNDEAD, where she was this incredibly sexy witch. Hey, I'd let her put me under her spell. Great casting!

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Well, I agree with a lot of what you say (except, obviously, I found "Zombies" so poor, handled with such obvious contempt by the producer, writers and director, that it's just plain lousy, too bad to be "too bad to be good").

I do agree with you about Ms. Hayes, but I'm afraid it is fair to say her career was wasted. That's not a knock against B films -- I love them as a group, and the late Robert Clarke, who starred in quite a few, said he was amazed that so many of the "important" films of the 50s had been half-forgotten, while the bottom-budget stuff, especially sci-fi, retained a huge following by people who as kids saw and grew up with them. (Peter Graves once said he got more fan mail for "Killers From Space", even 50 years later, than he did for anything else he'd ever done -- "Airplane!", TV's "Mission Impossible", anything.)

But while today we appreciate Allison for "50-Ft. Woman" and so on, I'm thinking of her real life and career, how she worked and coped with being an actress stuck in such films when they were actually being made, 50 years ago. She had a lot of talent as well as exquisite looks, and with a little better luck she might have found herself in better roles in better films than "Zombies of Mora Tau", which, however much you might be amused by it, is unarguably a stupid movie enjoyable not for any quality but because it is so awful. Allison Hayes was capable of much better things and deserved them, and however she may have dealt with the career she actually had and perhaps even been philosophical about it, I'm sure she would have much preferred it had she been offered some good parts in superior pictures. Add to this that she died of blood poisoning at only 47 -- she just never had much of a chance even to enjoy the celebrity that came her way as her old films gained renewed popularity in the years following her untimely death. It's important to appreciate her for the work she did do, but that's not to say her career wasn't wasted on too much dreck that failed to use her talents to their fullest.

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Wow! I have to say I'm kind of confused about the mixture of compliments and nastiness I got from your post. Thank you for the former, but I think I must take exception to some of the latter. If I may:

First, of course, we don't know one another, but if we did you'd find that I probably share very similar opinions to yours about "campy and oddball" films, as you put it. In fact, I've often been taken to task for valuing movies like THE GIANT CLAW, CAT-WOMEN OF THE MOON, MISSILE TO THE MOON, KILLERS FROM SPACE, LOST CONTINENT -- you name it, I've seen virtually every sci-fi and similar flick from the 50s and 60s, grew up on 'em, and they are without rival my favorite of all genres. (Oops -- is that too presumptious a term?) I own most of these movies and would rather watch them than many if not most so-called "big" films...many of which I find pretentious bores. So, sorry, while I'd like to think of myself as "a pretty smart guy" (thank you for that), you're entirely mistaken that I'm "trying really hard not to come out of the closet" about loving movies like these. I've been "out" -- if that's the right term -- all my life: and, indeed, enjoying it! (And if you see my many posts on sites for films of this kind around these boards, I think you'd see exactly what my attitudes are -- as I said, yours and mine in fact seem pretty close.)

One thing I'm definitely not is a film snob: "Oh, I only deign to view the Cinema with Messages, Meaning and Depth!" As I said, I've come in for a lot of ribbing and criticism over the years for my numerous so-called "lowbrow" preferences. But I've never been criticized for saying I like many "major" films too! This is why I take very strong exception to what I think is a nasty, and in any case utterly inaccurate, assertion that "If it were up to [me], anything that isn't directed by David Lean or "Shindler's List" is best just thrown in a brown burlap sack and submerged in a lake at Mora Tau!" Aside from that fact that this doesn't represent my views in the slightest, it accuses me of a lot of things that I didn't even remotely say or even hint at (which I wouldn't have done, since those aren't my views), and you definitely have assumed a great deal about my beliefs (all erroneous) and made a lot of far-reaching assertions (also all erroneous) based on very limited remarks. Also, I thought there was only ONE lake at Mora Tau.

Each summer I host a classic film evening at a club I belong to and usually have an audience of 50 or so. I generally try to include at least one low-budget SF film from the 50s, and to my surprise these usually get a good response (with grumbles from a handful of patrons!). They loved DESTINATION MOON and went along with THE MAN FROM PLANET X, for instance. Sure, I'll also show things like THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI or ACE IN THE HOLE, but I always try for a mixture of styles, genres, budgets, etc., and after seven years seem to be pretty successful at it. In fact, one of my main goals is to dig out obscure films people may not know, or might dismiss without seeing because of the title, and to show them that quality has nothing to do with cost or subject matter.

I also have to take exception to your remarks that I assume that my "standard and opinion of art is more valid or more correct than that of anybody else." I honestly don't know how you can say or even infer that from anything I wrote; in any case, it certainly isn't true. I consider my standards very middle-of-the-road, and while it's true I do know a great deal about film (an immodest assertion, I guess, but I think a fair one), I don't claim that my opinions are "better" or "more valid" than someone else's. Nor did I say any such thing -- and believe me, there are many people I've run across on these boards who do feel exactly that way about their own opinions. If I were really one of those, you'd know it!

As to our differences re Ms. Hayes's career being wasted or not, in your opening paragraph, well, let me turn it around: there's nothing so cut-and-dried about your view that her career was not wasted; that is only your opinion; and you too seem very certain about it. Obviously -- what are we doing here but exchanging opinions? You have your belief, and I respect it (I do respect it); I have mine, and I think it merits the same respect without me being charged with all sorts of snooty artistic pretensions and smug self-certainty. Of course, in the end, anything like this is purely a matter of individual opinion; I for one never said otherwise or pretended some superior wisdom or infallibility; and I am put out that you should accuse me of such motives or feelings.

As to whether her career was wasted, your opinion and mine aside, the only one who could have definitively answered that question was Allison Hayes herself. And I don't pretend to know what she thought. But I can (and do, as I've said) appreciate her work in the films she did do, while still being able to opine that she had a lot more to offer than 50-FT. WOMAN -- a film which, by the way, is one of my all-time faves (I also loved her in THE UNDEAD). And while still being able to criticize ZOMBIES OF MORA TAU.

I too would like to continue these discussions, because it seems to me that you also have a lot of intelligent things to say and also the same appreciation for these kinds of films (and, as evidenced by what you wrote, many "big" films as well), and I think we could exchange a lot of interesting conversation. But please stop impugning ideas or attitudes to me that I don't possess and never gave any indication of believing. I think you've assumed way too much from anything I've written.

And to get back to the original point of this thread, just because I love these kinds of movies (and all kinds of movies) doesn't mean I like EVERY one -- and I just didn't like ZOMBIES, for the reasons I've stated. Whereas I do very much like the other three in the Katzman set -- especially my buddy, THE GIANT CLAW. (By the way, I don't like KITTY FOYLE either! But I do like THE LETTER.)

Just wanted to clear up some misconceptions, assert my sci-fi bona fides, demonstrate I am anything but a cinema snob, and get into some good discussions with you as I have with a lot of others, LongLive. Hope to hear from you!

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"Just when I think I can't watch Night of The Living Dead one more time, I watch Mora Tau, and I'm so....stunned, by the sheer awfulness, that I forget Living Dead ever existed".
"Then I pop my old friend into the DVD player, and it's like I'm seeing it for the first time".

"A Zombie palate cleanser, that's pure genius".

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One possible locale that would be plausible(but as you say, not mentioned)is a pre-Castro Cuba. Probably was a little voodoo being practiced there before 1959. Would get whiplash watching this being shot. Apparently no margin for error in terms of time!

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True, you could doubtless find some voodoo cultists (or a variation thereof) dotted throughout the Caribbean, Cuba included. But of course, the movie is very explicit about its being located in West Africa, however ridiculous this is as a concept, let alone as it's portrayed in the film! Far be it for me to quibble with the great Edward L. Cahn.

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I'm with you. Are we to think that no one who was there would easily scoop up the diamonds? Are the zombies truly at rest or would they reappear from wherever they went if a human touched a diamond? Why did they never dig a pit, throw the empty box in it and fill it with gasoline and light it on fire when the zombies fell in?

Mona mona mona...I thought Jan was where it's at!

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And no one shot a zombie in the head which worked for all later zombie flicks!!

Swimming zombies.

Zombies were safety conscious in that they used the hand rails when ascending/descending stairs.

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I'm surprised that anyone would give such an in-depth critique to a film like Zombies of Mora Tau. Bravo to you on your dedication. It was a nice read, but again, I'm surprised to see such effort on a film which was so obviously lacking in the same.

I gotta say though, I would place this film in the "so bad it's good" category. It is just so lacking in conscious effort that it turns apathy into an art form. "Yeah, they're zombies. Just accept that they are. We can't be bothered to do any more than that."

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Hi Forgotten_Hero -- I don't know if it's "dedication" as much as having nothing better to do, but it was fun in sort of the same way that you describe watching the movie -- an easy mark to pick apart, not for its being bad (as I said, I enjoy lots of bad movies), as for its makers not even having made an effort to be halfway decent, or at least consistent within the film's own goofy context.

Besides, I figure every film deserves some "serious" comment. We can't all sit around dissecting Vertigo every day!

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That's true. It's easy to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of most movies, or to dissect the really bad ones, but there isn't much to say about the truly great films.

Citizen Kane: The acting, directorial work, and photography are all phenominal. We already know this, so let's skip the chatter and just rewatch the opening scene where he says "Rosebud...."

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Better yet, let's skip to the part where Allison Hayes is lying flat [sic] on the sarcophagus floor...!

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when she herself greets the expedition members she introduces Jan as her "great-granddaughter".


Think she meant she was a "great" granddaughter, you know meaning terrific!

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Either that, or she meant to tell them that Jan was a "grand" daughter!

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I just watched this again, and there were a few scenes that had me laughing like crazy. Probably the worst film in the Sam Katzman DVD boxset which says a lot a lot since it also contains The Giant Claw.

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Right. At least The Giant Claw moved, it was fun, had a decent cast and a huge monster wrecking New York City. Zombies of Mora Tau was just stupid, and worse, boring -- the cardinal sin of such films.

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