It still doesnt make it alright to rape the movie. If they would have for example showed the original version first, followed by the raped version, it would have been okay.
Maybe it doesnt make the viewers dumber, but it generally enforces disrespect towards movies. And you are right, these movies in many cases are bad movies, they are movies that are funny because they are so bad: so why cannot you just watch the movies themselves and laugh at them, instead of having someone else joke at them for you, pointing you where to laugh, etc? Why wouldnt people want independence, the right to choose where to laugh, the right to enjoy the movie itself with no interruption from stupid robots?
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asflagg1
19 years ago
I think MST would have loved to do the big budget movies if they could. That being said, I recently watched Diabolik. Not a very good example of a "good" movie they made fun of. In fact, for me, the movie would have absolutley no entertainment value if it were not for the commentary from Mike and the Bots. Feel free to disagree just understand "different strokes for different folks." There is no reason to be hateful of others because they do not subscribe to your opinion. You made a comment about it being a show for "stupid Americans" Isn't racism is a sign of stupidity? Does comments such as this really qualify your opinion or make people lose respect for you. Granted we have are share of morons here in the states but that seems to be the case of the entire human species. What nation of intellectuals do you come from?
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ezridax
19 years ago
Jesus Christ, how whiny can you possibly be? Someone doesn't like a movie? Good thing you're there to tell them it's because they're "brainless Americans". No one cares that Mystery Science Theatre is too complicated for you to understand, so shut up and watch your terrible movies without the bots.
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FilmJunkieVGS
12 years ago
While I realize it is virtually pointless to post on a topic that has been dead for nearly 7 years, I feel like I need to point this out. While people may consider shows like MST3K the "raping" of a film, consider the fact that most of the films that MST3K riffed gained an audience that would have never discovered the film. I would have never seen The Undead if not for the MST3K episode, but have since purchased a VHS copy that was not "raped." Many filmmakers actually felt honored to have their movies on MST3K, even Roger Corman himself (see his "Behind the Actor's Studio" interview where he said he thought the episode was funny). Consider too the fact that films like Mitchel, Manos: The Hands of Fate, Corpse Vanishes, and the Gamara films were distributed on DVD because people saw the MST3K episodes and requested these movies be updated to a modern medium (at the time).
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maximumhong
19 years ago
Disrespect? I own practically every movie that MST riffed in its un-MST'd form. I would never have done so if it weren't for the sheer pleasure of experiencing it the first time with Joel/Mike and the bots.
Also, we're talking about bad movies here. Movies that quite often don't deserve a shred of respect because the creators were too drunk, lazy, ignorant, high, corrupt or naive to tell a good story.
I think you need to learn how to separate your opinion from the objective universe. I respect your right to hate MST3K, but you are crossing the line when you begin to throw accusations and judgments around. Just because people don't share your view doesn't mean you are right and they are wrong. It just means everybody's got a different view. If we didn't what would be the point in discussing anything at all?
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JMBasquiat
19 years ago
Way to have no sense of humour! This film - like most Corman - is a joke. It's only suitable to have such witty writer/performers make fun of it. Anyone who actually enjoys this film as a creative piece has no taste whatsoever!
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hudgerrific
18 years ago
Prospero was never a prince, you wanker.
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cpetr13
18 years ago
In shakespeare, propspero was not a prince. But in corman's "masque of the Red Death", Vincent price played a character named Prince Propsero, and the confusion may rise from the two characters.
I too loved MST3K and have no problem with "disrespecting" movies; they are not sacred relics. I personally would have liked to see what they would have done with "Citizen Kane".
This movie, "The Undead", is a wonderful filmed fairy tale given a basis in psychic science. Hypnosis isn't just a plot device in this movie; this was the time of "audrey Rose" and other regression accounts that used hypnosis. And I have nothing but admiration for Dorothy Neumann, the ugly witch, and the premise that beauty and good are not synonymous. This will come as news to the "Charmed" generation.
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fhantazm
15 years ago
I realize this posting is several years old, but I'd just like to add that most, if not all, the movies riffed by the MST3K crew were actually GIVEN to them by the films owner! The MST3K producers didnt just randomly go around picking movies to riff, they were happily supplied with them! Don't make it sound as if MST3K are thugs picking on poor innocent movies here. Apparently the films owner realized these films are way past their prime, some very corny and found a good avenue to renew interest. It's called having a sense of humor, try it. You'll like it.
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