Eve 'Child Murderer' Black?


Just one thing I didn't quite get in this film, and that's why Eve Black tried to kill Bonnie near the start. I can understand that she's a different personality and that she doesn't consider Bonnie to be her child, but surely that's a mile away from actually trying to kill her? She certainly didn't come over as a murderer... so what gives?


Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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If the incedent with Bonnie hapenned then it was one of the other personalities. the real Eve had more than 26 personalities

Oh GOOD!,my dog found the chainsaw

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Yeah that didn't make any sense. I kept expecting Eve's third face to turn out to be a serial killer or something. Must be an artifact left over from an earlier version of the script.

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that incident was probably as a plot vehicle to make the film more interesting

"why are you married to him then if you can't work with him how do you live with him?"

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I just saw this scene again and it doesn't make any sense. "Eve Black" is a bit wild, sexy and fun-loving, but she's far from a violent person, let alone a killer. Not to mention that her attack on Bonnie was completely unprovoked.

The real Eve did have over 20 personalities but in the movie this has been simplified to three, none of which is a murderer. This incident with Bonnie just doesn't fit with the rest of the film. It's one thing to introduce a plot point to make things more "interesting", but trying to kill a child is hardly in keeping with everything else in the movie. Besides, ultimately even Eve Black is seen sympathetically, which we shouldn't be seeing if she was a would-be child killer.

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I don't remember that line. But "wronging" doesn't have a violent context. It would indicate she might cheat on him, try to con him into buying her stuff, that sort of thing -- examples of which we see -- but nothing violent. Even Ralph never complains about anything on that score. Eve's only example of violence is her inexplicable (and dramatically pointless) attack on Bonnie.

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No problem, my wife is English, and we're always encountering linguistic barriers!

indeed!

But "fix his wagon" doesn't ordinarily imply violence. It basically means you're just going to give someone his just desserts, but in a come-uppance kind of way -- something that will make him mad, cost him money or the like, something that will disrupt his existence -- but not in a physical, violent way. I suppose in some context a person could mean it violently, but that's most unusual, and in any case I never got any sense of menace from the exchange you cite, and neither I believe did Dr. Luther. He never questioned her about any violent intentions. Eve's threat seems pretty harmless, more about making Ralph a fool than actually doing anything to him.

The same with not wanting to spend her life with "that creep". That's plainly not a threat to murder him, just her intention of leaving him for someone who wasn't a "pea-picker".

As we've been saying about her bizarre and unexplained attack on Bonnie, violence is pretty clearly not part of Eve Black's character. It would have been more interesting, made resolving the case more urgent, had it been.

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I was waiting for 3rd Eve to be the evil one who tried to hurt Bonnie, I think they should have just gone with Eve Black shouting at her or something much milder.

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Yes, it might have been understandable if Eve Black had become frustrated with Bonnie and given her a whack on the behind -- something Eve White wouldn't have done -- but nothing truly harmful or certainly violent. Black's apparent attempt to kill Bonnie is just totally out of any context in the film, and less believably still, it happens in isolation -- it never recurs or has anything to do with Black's character. Even the doctor never asks her what she was doing and why, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It was a stupid piece of audience manipulation to give people a momentary shock but with no basis, reason or follow-up.

The "3rd Eve", Jane, was clearly the "compromise" personality exhibiting the best traits of the two Eves as a "normal", middle-of-the-road individual. This entire resolution was completely pat, trite and phony (not to mention dishonest, as regards the actual real-life case, which wasn't resolved so neatly).

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