ANY LETTERBOXED VERSIONS


Love this movie

Lee Estrada

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nada, it was filmed in fullscreen only.

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They were done so quite often during this time, and this one was as well, but it's not clear if this was a hard-matte process or if it used a projectionist matte.

Regardless, the standard 4:3 aspect ratio often was a further reduction of the matted widescreen area by cropping the sides, then possibly using some sort of pan & scan to get the widescreen activity of one shot all into the frame at some point.

A viewing of the film ought to indicate if the 4:3 version is the whole frame as originally shot, or if it is a matte of the widescreen matte. It will become obvious with a good study of the frame and how it's filled.

If you see a boom mic anywhere, then that's an immediate indication that it's the full frame as originally shot without any sort of matte.

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The Eyes of the City are Mine! Mother Pressman / Anguish (1987)

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This is what I discovered by accident while replacing my full screen VHS tapes with wide screen, 1:85 ratio. I noticed that some of the movies on CD with ratio of 1:85 did not show very much more picture left and right but less top and bottom. After months of comparing and researching this issue, I have come to the conclusion that a number of full screen prints are actually the full print minus the mask that was used during filming to make it 1:85. During the days of VHS why would a studio crop a 1:85 to full screen when the film minis the crop was already full screen. If it is a major film they might have done pan & scan but a lesser film, just scan it as is. You can see the cost savings. This appears to be the case also with some full screen DVDs but to a lesser degree. I believe “It! The Terror from Outer of Space” and “The Monster that Challenged the world” are these full prints. Just set your DVD player to full and TV to Zoom. Your player and TV may us different terminology. I watched It! and Monster this way (Wide 16:9) and it works! No heads cut off. No missing action. You’ll notice the title and credits fit perfectly. (If they don’t you don’t have the set up right.) It actually played better because the close up added tension. No extraneous views of sets or background. Just as I'm sure the director and cinematographer wanted. Ladies and Gentleman I do believe you own the 1:85 wide screen, Just crop it and watch. If you have other full screens that fall in this category, watch it in wide screen and if no heads or credits are cut off, it could be another one. Check with IMDb for aspect ratio.

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Turner Classic Movies channel shows it in widescreen, pretty boring stuff but I didn't grow up with it so I have no special attachment to it.

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I'm watching it now in widescreen [HD] as I captured it off my old Voom system back around 2005.

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As jeepnman speculated, the MGM DVD is indeed the full frame "open matte" version, intended to be "soft matted" by the projectionist in the theater to 1.85:1 widescreen aspect ratio. He is also correct that the MGM DVD of It! The Terror from Beyond Space is presented "open matte" as well.

If you don't understand what "open matte" means, see the Wikipedia article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_matte. For an even more detailed explanation of open matte formatting with additional screen shots as examples, see this page on widescreen.org: http://www.widescreen.org/widescreen_matte.shtml.

To watch open matte full frame DVDs in their correct aspect ratio, "zoom" your 16x9 TV's picture in to fill the screen side to side (DO NOT simply "stretch" the picture horizontally!). For a list of nearly 250 open matte formatted DVDs I have identified from my 1400+ title collection, contact me here on IMDb.

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