Cooper seemed drunk....


or intoxicated on something during the entire movie. And for a worldly wise, sophisticated character I found him to be a little too long in the tooth to be acting out his same boyish charm/cowboy routine. I can't figure out what went wrong with this movie....Gary Cooper, Audrey Hepburn, Billy Wilder, Franz Waxman. How can a movie with all this going for it...well....STINK! I couldn't watch the whole thing. I think it boils down to the lead male character. Gary Cooper just seems like he has lost his concentration, or something. Perhaps he already knew he had cancer at the time. He only lived 4 more years.

Paula Jo

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I think you should actually hold on and watch the end - it's one of the most moving and great endings of all movies!

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Coop did not know he had cancer. He didn't find out until January, 1961 and died 4 months later.

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He walked very stiff...it was obvious in at least one scene when he walked across the hotel room. Much more pronounced then in his earlier movies.
He may have been on 'pain killers' (?) His leg injury gave him a distinctive walk and riding style that seemed to work for him when he was younger. He looked uncomfortable walking in this movie. It may have affected his balance too (the old injury).
I injured my ankle many years ago but it didn't cause me problems at the time.
As a man now his age when he made this movie, I can tell you I often loose my balance or steady myself using the walls, chairs etc. I've often wondered if my kids thought I was a little 'tipsy' (although they know I'm not a 'drinker').
I didn't notice his voice slurring or any of the other usual give aways so no, I don't think he was drunk.

* I'd like to point out to the other poster here who said he didn't 'know' he had cancer yet. Many people 'know' when something is seriously wrong with them health wise, long before they get 'the diagnosis'. I read about a study done in Sweden in which they discovered, statistically, pipe smokers lived longer then those who had quit !
This made zero sense to the researchers and they finally figured out why their data indicated this bizarre result. When they interviewed family members about their deceased loved ones past smoking habits, many responded that the deceased had smoked a pipe but had quit smoking it some years ago. The researchers finally caught on to the problem with their 'statistics' - the deceased KNEW their health was deteriorating and panicked so they altered their habits in hopes that they could heal themselves (having caught 'it' in time - self Dx/treatment). Of course by the time the cancer had progressed to the point that the smoker suspected something was 'wrong', it was too late. A year or two goes by and no improvement/downhill, they go to the doc and get the 'terminal' Dx. At the time of their death they were technically 'ex-pipe smokers' who had quit the habit. And one has to be alive to smoke a pipe - so it appeared that you had a lower mortality rate as a pipe smoker (continued smoking) as ex-pipe smokers seemed to die within a few years of quitting. Keep smoking,live longer !! Fun with statistics !!

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Well, I've been a pipe smoker since I was 25, quitting only for a few years while taking care of my mother...at 78, I figure I might as well continue smoking. LOL

Life, every now and then, behaves as though it had seen too many bad movies

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I read in a magazine in the 1960's/ early 70's an article by his friend A.E. Hotchner that said Cooper had surgery on his prostate in early 1959 (this is documented), and that it was little known that he had also had some sort of procedure in 1958 that had been effectively hidden from all but a few people.

Cooper WAS ill with prostate problems for a long time and suffered greatly, regardless of when it was finally confirmed as cancer.

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I'm very disappointed to see so many attacks on Gary Cooper's age. It is absolutely ridiculous to blame him for the failure of the movie. Apparently, even Billy Wilder said, 'the day after he cast him, Cooper got old.' That is complete nonsense.

The failure of the movie is directly attributable to Wilder himself. The movie was already about a middle-aged playboy and the young, naive girl who falls for him; first through the stories in her father's files, then his picture, then with the man himself. All they had to do was make a few tweaks to the script to make it work.

For instance, make the age difference one of the issues keeping them from being together; acknowledge the big elephant in the room instead of trying pretend it wasn't there. How hard would that have been? In work, in life, sometimes we have to pivot. It can mean the difference between success and failure.

It wouldn't have changed the movie that much but it would have been enough to make it more plausible and save it. For the man to be that rich and have all that leisure time, he would likely be an older, established man. Women would still be drawn to him for those reasons alone. He also gave the women gifts, treated them well, and did not put a lot of demands on them or their time.

Whatever the audience may have thought, Ariane wasn't blind; she could see he was an older man who was past his prime. She was drawn to the lover in him and marveled at all his experiences and conquests; she knew them all. She also was raised by her father; an older man who was at the center of her life. It would not be a stretch to imagine she felt more comfortable with an older man.

The other change that should have been made was recasting the Michel character. He was interested in Ariane but he the guy was as boring as gelatin. One might think that would help but I don't think it did. Michel should have been a young, sexy guy who factored more into the story. If he pursued Ariane more then she chose Frank audiences might have understood despite their ages, they fell in love.

Whether or not we buy what we see on screen is, in large part, the responsibility of the director not the actors or the crew; not even the writer(s). The director brings all the pieces together into one cohesive story. It's their vision; their baby. If something doesn't work, it's on them to fix it. When all is said and done it's their name and reputation at stake; blaming anyone else is pathetic.


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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there definitely was something off about Cooper :\

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he seemed frail and ill.
they just mentioned how he aged during filming.
I think he had A Lot of pain.

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:(

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